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OK - critical stage advice.
After engaging 'Manual', if Freespace doesn't show, delete the intended main space and then create 'New' partition which needs to have its 'Format' check box ticked. (NB always wait for re-scanning to complete before going on)
Highlight the main Linux partition, 'Edit Partition' and select / (forward slash) to define as root 'Mount point'.
The next stage may offer to migrate settings etc, but just click on 'Forward' to define UserName, Password and Network Name.
(On the 'Ready to install' window, the 'Advanced' button would prevent automatic search and GRUB menu/bootloader set up.)
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| Thanks Bruce R - just to let you know I got there in the end. I've just re-installed Ubuntu again this afternoon (didn't have to actually - I cocked up the entry in GRUB) as I wanted PC Linux OS 2007 on as well. I've go no clue about Linux but I'm learning as I go VERY SLOWLY. Some by Googling with the helpful community and the other a bit of guesswork - I had to guess that Ubuntu was located h(0,4). I've spent 4 hours trying to get them to boot up in GRUB only for me to balls it up as I copied some additional code (to do with ACPI and VGA settings) from the PCLinuxOS entry and Ubnuntu just froze with the cursor! and why the hell does PCLinuxOS not save the changes when you want to change the system boot - even in root it kept going back to a default -ARRGGGGHHH. Thank goodness for Redo MBR  I finally got it all working at long last. I also have Win 2k and Win XP on there as well - so 4 OSes! Good thing I have patience
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Hi Computer Dave
Glad to hear that you made it in the end.
At one stage I had six OSs (three different Linuxes) spread across two physical drives,
but now rely on WinXP-hosted SelfImage-121 to create a library of Linux images that
I can restore to the single Linux 10GiB primary+1GiB swap as the fancy takes me.
(A BartPE CD version of SelfImage takes about three times as long to create or restore)
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| Some more : Partition Tools: BootPart - http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm
Cute PM - http://www.cutepm.com/
DiskImage - http://www.dubaron.com/diskimage/
GParted - http://gparted.sourceforge.net
PartImage - http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page
Parted Magic - http://www.partedmagic.com/
Partition Is Not Ghost (PING) - http://ping.windowsdream.com/
Partition Logic - http://partitionlogic.org.uk/
Partition Saving - http://www.partition-saving.com/
Partition Recovery Bootdisk - http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
Partition Resizer - http://www.zeleps.com/
Ranish Partition Manager - http://www.ranish.com/part/
SwissKnife - http://www.compuapps.com/Download/swissknife/swissknife.htm
Edit : corrected Partition Resizer web address and removed Test Disk from list.
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Hi wasbit
An interesting but not comprehensive list, excluding Spanish GAG and DriveImageXML
(which looked promising, but has been reported to not work on a number of PCs).
Your list includes some old utilities that simply don't work on modern PCs, turn out
to have 'strings attached' (eg shareware, not genuinely FREE), are promising but
don't work yet or are very complicated to actually create and set up (like UBCD4Win).
Gparted goes on in its own right, but later version LiveCDs have been over-complicated
with additions and don't work on all hardware, even refusing to boot.
(The old version 0.3.3.0, is probably the simplest but even it doesn't like all PCs.)
The PartedMagic compilation is the best, if it likes the PC in question, including a useful
array of other utilities like Thunar FileManager, MountUtility, a Screen capture that works
(a lot don't), even a copy of TestDisk that I have yet to fully explore.
(It doesn't include, as some folk have claimed, a copy of PartImage, which is still really
at the command-line level, and not easy to use.)
It's possible that something on your list will make a breakthrough and also be easy to use.
It's supposed to include DriveImageXML and SelfImage, so I shall struggle with BartPE
creation of UBCD4win, (for Partition Imaging, not Editing)
but SelfImage-121 is currently the easiest to use and actually works for Linux.
(Whilst my trusty Ghost2003 utility diskette still works for Windows, even WinVista.)
However can you personally recommend any specific utility, having used it in anger ?
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| Hi Bruce, Oops, Testdisk shouldn't be in that list. I copied it quickly (in the early hours) without checking.
Also Partition resizer = http://www.zeleps.com. I've had a dabble (good technical term) with them all. Any problems were down to me rather than incompatibility (see my sig for system specs - which has also included Athlon XPs) On the odd occasion that I want to have a play with partitions (rather than need to), I use Partition Magic 7 because I happen to have it (I had a mate who bought all the latest programmes and gave me his old versions).
This isn't the place to get into a discussion about the definition of freeware but I have just been through each of the links in the list and they all offer the named programme free for personal use. However I stand to be corrected if I've misunderstood.
Acronis & Paragon spring to mind as companies that have allowed some of their older programmes to be used for free (classed as register-ware so use an old but valid email address to get the serial number).
The discussion seems to be moving from partitioning to backup to imaging, which although inter-related should be kept seperate so that the readers are not confused. Windows partitioning & using Linux to partition in Windows is also a completely different discussion from Linux partitioning and should be kept seperate to avoid confusion. I have edited & updated previously posted lists :
Freeware/Shareware sticky - http://forum.micromart.co.uk/Topic74056-7-1.aspx
Post# 191217 - Backup, Clone & Imaging software
Post# 191218 - Boot utilities freeware
Post# 191221 - File repair & recovery That should give you something to get you teeth into .
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Partition Editing is the title of this thread, not Partition Imaging, but I will
always try to help folk with related problems.
I am not alone in reporting limitations for Partition Magic (or other DOS/Win
utilities) when it comes to sharing drives with Linux, if only for data exchange.
Linux-based tools seem to have been making more of an effort to be DOS/Win
compatible, in the form of better versions of Gparted or its inclusion on other
LiveCDs, compilations or distros, some better than others, whilst to be kind,
some profit-making DOS/Win products seem content to 'rest on their laurels'.
(I also see little point in pursuing limited version trial products that mandate
registration for SPAM purposes, or payment to provide full functionality.)
Although unsupported open source or free software can be much worse, some
can be much better. Partition editing seems to be going that way, with Gparted
variants etc getting better all the time, now overtaking PartionMagic for DOS/Win
handling, let alone Linux preparation.
Having more than one tool can overcome specific machine problems, but a small
set of 'gooduns', not a large array of bad or poor products.
I live in hope of a single better solution, but trying PartEdMagic 1.9/1.8 and then
Gparted 0.3.3.0, in that order, means that it's been a year since I've used Partition
Magic or other non-free software, although Gparted has its own 'quirks'.
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..[B]..384M_XFX8800GS SATA-320+500GB G31MX-S2 2.9GHz E4600 2G
..[C]..Radeon9600 PATA100-160+250GB SiemensD1625 3.0GHz-P4 2G
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| I've just read my previous post and it seems as is I'm trying to tell you what should and shouldn't be in this thread and that was not my intention. I also shouldn't try to be ultracrepidarian (give an opinion beyond the scope of my knowledge) especially as I wouldn't attempt to partition someone elses hard drive unless it was empty.
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