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Posted 27/03/2008 22:45:14


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here is my first attempt at a clan website
http://www.freewebs.com/clk-homepage/index.htm
any tricks how to jazz it up as it looksa bit noobish-be warned am not much of an artist

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Posted 27/03/2008 23:13:57


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more pics of rambo

ps looks like he's an Artist

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Posted 09/04/2008 20:30:14


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Sorry to be horrible but that really doesn't look good! On the plus side the only way is up etc

I'm no expert, but have done some freelance web design and would suggest :

1) Pick a colour scheme and stick to it
2) Lose the music!
3) Tiled backgrounds are about 12 years out of date

Just try and keep it simple, focus on making it easy to read/look at, make sure the pictures and text flow together nicely.

It's not easy to get a great looking website, so you've done well for a first attempt and you will learn a lot very quickly once you get into it!

Good luck!

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Posted 09/04/2008 20:46:58


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Doesnt quite display right in Opera http://screencast.com/t/LL6qJiEMU

Not abad first attempt (better than my first ever id link you but I deleted the archive a couple of weeks back...)

Id probably agree with some of PixlKids advice: plain dark grey backgroun will look good.

Also, the music doesnt work in Opera so I can only imagine but PK is right: its a little off puttign on websites some time (unless it's tinkly background stuf: which doenst really fit). Though w/o hearing it I wouldnt liek to comment

I could suggest other "improvements" but for the effort it would take to learn the skills it's not worth it (like grid design, block layouts etc.)

Nice to see the CSS though - good effort my first design didnt get that far

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Posted 17/04/2008 16:24:52
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Hey,

I've seen worse i have to admit !!!

I am a developer and run my own web site, you may want to look at deploying something called a content management system which does all the hard core stuff for you.

The advantage of that being that you could deploy some really powerfull functionality on your web site without actually having to dig in to the complexities of writing html unless you really want to !!!

Your usage of ccs is good but i wonder about your keen interest in divs.

One thing that works well for me is to use visual studio.

The express version is free from microsoft and although this is really a full blown development environment which might be a bit scary for a noobie webby like yourself it does have some interesting concepts in it the first being the "control".

A control is a small block of functionality that is rendered as part of a page so you might have a header control and a footer control then a navigation control and a main content area for each page.

This is how my web site works essentially, it loads the same header footer and stylesheet information on to every page then loads the content specific to the page.

My site is of course content managed by my own content management system which is something that i'm still developing but if you're interested in learning more about these types of things let me know

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Posted 18/04/2008 03:25:33


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Hmmm

I'd probably say VS is massive overkill for him (TBH its huge overkill for web design.. unless your coding in ASP - dont get me started , I use VS when I HAVE to for windows apps: but that's C/C++ and so on).

If he goes for an IDE then I always advise going for customised versions of eclipse (the ones tailored for PHP / Html dev) - Aptana studio is probably the best option at the moment. Probably that serves as the best code editor as well (tho Notepad++ is perfectly fine I find). I'd say an IDE is probably more than he needs TBH: a text editor or one of the many free WYSIWYG editors will probably be less daunting.

Howee: what he says abotu CMS is probably excellent advice. You could try Joomla (I wrote some of it aaaaaaaaaaaaages back and it's fairly good), however that is still probably overkill for you. I would advise this: http://www.cmsfromscratch.com, its VERY simple and easy to get started with. YOu set out your HTML, split it up into logical segments and then piece it together very simply. It's probably the best "baby step" from simple HTML to more advanced web design concepts.

The guy who made that system has a site here: http://webdesignfromscratch.com/
Its one of my fav places on the web with lots and lots of very sensible advice on designing and building a website.
He's also written some very thoughtful pieces on the web future: for those that are interested (this page is 100% my favourite piece of text on the internet, I go back to it again and again to inspire me: http://webdesignfromscratch.com/future-social-web-experience.cfm).

Wardy: control based sites are pretty cool (done a few recently: mostly in ASP [again ugh]), you might want to look at MVC based systems (Model-View-Controller). I couple that with semantic layouts and some basic templating with excellent results (I recommend Code Igniter or Kohana as the best frameworks to build MVC sites on).

Your usage of ccs is good but i wonder about your keen interest in divs.


Im confused a little by that?? Semantic web loves the use of divs in designs.. (admittedly with an equal helping of span and h* etc.)

Cheers,
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