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Posted 28/05/2008 11:36:48
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Hi everyone, i have a Intel Pentium 4 cpu which is using hyperthreading technology. when i run super Pi i get a result of 35.989s on 1M but it only uses one thread, so what is the REAL result when using both threads.
Is there a way of getting super Pi working on both threads or is there a way of working out the actual result
Plus also, does anyone know what temp a pentium 4 prescott edition chip can handle

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Posted 28/05/2008 13:16:05


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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111462

Theres a version of SuperPi that can run on more than one core. Hyperthreading is using one core as two, so you may find that it is a little slower.

I'm not sure on max temps, but with your P4 at 3.92GHz, it looks to be pretty on the limit of what it can do.


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Posted 28/05/2008 13:18:44
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FreakShow! (28/05/2008)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111462

Theres a version of SuperPi that can run on more than one core. Hyperthreading is using one core as two, so you may find that it is a little slower.

I'm not sure on max temps, but with your P4 at 3.92GHz, it looks to be pretty on the limit of what it can do.

Damn, the link in the thread you sent me is a 404error

it can go higher but it gets too hot as i am only aircooling it.
i have pushed it just short of 5.00Ghz before but not recomended without watercooling

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Red

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Windows Vista Ultimate - 32bit
2.5Gb RAM
Intel Pentium 4 Extreme Edition (Prescott 2M XE)
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main HDD; SATA Seagate 512GB
second HDD; IDE seagate 250GB
ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro 512mb graphics card
iCute Mesh ATX PC Case with Super Size 250mm Fan
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Posted 28/05/2008 22:54:00


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You could run two instances of super pi if you like.

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Posted 28/05/2008 23:09:43
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-Wiz!- (28/05/2008)
You could run two instances of super pi if you like.


If i run two instences of pi, i would still get the same result or worse because they dont work together so they will be just slowing each other down

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ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro 512mb graphics card
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Posted 28/05/2008 23:14:53


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That's hyperthreading for you. It's not the same as having two proper cores. With a multithreaded superpi it will be (most likely) slower anyway. As you are only running one thread of superpi the P4 will effectively run as one and all the power will go to superpi. When running two it splits itself up so both things (whatever they are) are running at half the speed of the P4.


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Posted 29/05/2008 00:25:24


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Hyperthreading was designed for when there is a "cache miss" and data has to be accessed from slower memory. During the waiting period, the CPU can run another task which is resident in the cache.

Running Super PI does not require much memory access and so the cache missing won't occur and mutli-threading will be of little use. I believe it is mainly used for small I/O interrupts which can be serviced while the CPU is busy, i.e. whilst encoding a movie your mouse should stay responsive and usable.


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Posted 10/06/2008 18:32:11


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how the hell [sorry - but] have you overclocked to 3.92Ghz?

Is it the same chip as mine - Prescott - Family F - Model 4 - Stepping 1 - Revision E0??


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Posted 10/06/2008 18:59:28