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Posted 18/08/2008 17:31:38


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Google article Cuil, page 82, Issue 1017

The article is right in that 'Cuil' got it wrong. But the article isn't entirely right either. 'Cuil' is a declination in adjective form of the word Cul. While in noun form 'Cul' it can mean 'side' or 'corner'  example : Cul an bothair [The side of the road] in adjective form it ALWAYS means 'back' or 'bottom'.

The name of the area which I spent my teenage years was called Cuil Moin [meaning back of the bog] because there was a turf fuel harvesting area to the front of the roadway into the village.

Cul is actually not originally an Irish word, but was imported into the Irish language around 1798 and comes from the influence of France over the Irish language during the 'Years of the French'  You will probably be familiar with the french phrase 'Cul de Sac' meaning a road that leads nowhere [dead-end], Translated literally from French it means 'bottom of the bag'.

There is indeed a legend regarding the 'Salmon of Knowledge' - 'An Bradan Feasa', although the most common word generally used for 'Knowledge' is 'Eolas' a derivative of the word 'Solas' meaning 'light'.....but Fionn's last name is not spelled 'Cuil' or 'Cuill' but rather ''Cumhail' but is still pronounced 'cool'.

Many bastardizations of Irish language exist globally as a result of small pockets of people of Irish origin being divorced from their parent culture resulting in cultural and tradition bankruptcy. This is most notable in the United States where some people actually think that bagpipes are Irish - they are not, they are Scottish only!

Irish pipes are called Oileann Pipes and sound is produced not by blowing into them but injecting air with a bellows mechanism kept under the arm!

Other examples of irish cultural/tradition bankruptcy are:

1. Spelling 'Sean' like 'Shawn' , 'Shaun' and other variatons.

2. The last name 'Mahoney' and being pronounced 'MAH-HONE- EE' The right spelling is 'Mahony' and pronounced 'MAH-NEE'

3, The last name 'Kinsella' being pronounced 'kin-SELL-a' with emphasis on the middle sylabel. The right pronounciation is 'KIN- sla' emphasis on the first sylabel and roll the remaining two sylabels into one.

4. The last name 'Moran' being pronounced 'MOR-ANNE' The right pronounciation is 'MORE-in' emphasis on the first sylabel.

5. The last name 'Shaughnessy' being pronounced 'Shawn -nessy'. The right pronounciation is 'Shock-nessy' 

I could go on - do you all have time for this? LOL.

Oh yeah, and the perception that the only stout in Ireland is Guinness, and the most popular Irish whiskey is either Bushmills or Jameson.

Many Thanks John

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Posted 19/08/2008 16:06:01


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John Powers always gets my vote

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"Cul-De-Sac" actually means "*rse of the bag", thank you

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Posted 25/08/2008 19:06:48


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Hi Dave,

If you want a hard raw Irish Whiskey that gives a good bang for buck you can't go far wrong with 'Powers'
Another whiskey, slightly different flavour, but in the same league, is 'Paddy'.
In terms of a hard whiskey drinker, there isn't a lot between the popularity of either Paddy or Powers, but both are 'an Irishmans Irish whiskey, without doubt. In computing terms, they are the definitive overclocked dave special of Irish Whiskey.
In terms of a sophisticated and refined Irish single malt, I would go for Midleton Rare, which completely outclasses Laphroaig, Talisker, Oban, Glemorangie or any similar Scotch single malt anyone would care to mention.
The problem with Jameson and Bushmills is that they are generally more expensive than the Paddy or Powers, and they are in a real no mans land when it comes to a drinking experience. They lack the raw bite of Paddy or Powers, they dont have an ounce of the breeding that Midleton Rare has got, and in my mind, they fail to even stand up to a well tempered middle of the road blended scotch like J&B or Grouse.
In PC terms Jameson and Bushmills are like a mobo that costs 15-20 quid more than the Dave special board of the day, has nothing out of the ordinary in terms of chipset, no 'overheating' or extra pipelines etc in mobo comms architecture, little or now overclocking ability and a few anecdotal extra bells and whistles that many people agree are a good idea to be there, but very few people really use!
Thats my 2p LOL
Thanks John

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I'm Irish too!!!

Tá mé i mo chonaí in Éire!!

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And by the way the name isn't Shawn or Shaun or even Sean, It's Seán

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Truly knowledgable piece by cocorico.
As a whisky drinker for a great many of my [approaching 3 score and 10] i was not aware of all those brands/types.
I can usually while away the evening with half a bottle..and have put away much more..more so now the "crunch" as attacked my savings and pensions.
I dont buy irish..but something like Bells or Johhny Walker..something that makes me grit my teethand go "Ugh!!"
cocorica has now made me want to try a few others..Thanks mate
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