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Posted 24/08/2008 18:26:36


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Sounds like a monster...

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Posted 24/08/2008 22:36:39


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I'm not following this at all. Won't overclock because of a 133MHz bus? Why not? You just raise the clock of the bus, as you do with the 200MHz of an AMD chip.


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Post #306863
Posted 25/08/2008 21:07:34


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If they all have a fixed 133 Mhz bus that's somehow locked in hardware, then, as stated, the multipliers would change, depending on the model. This means that motherboards will expect to see varying multipliers between chips, so there will be some control of this outside of the chip, which should be tweakable




 


Post #307093
Posted 25/08/2008 21:55:47


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A more basic, rather worrying point is that with the introduction of Nehalem motherboards, dual-core 'good times' will come to an abrupt end with dual-core boards quickly vanishing, as happened when Intel forced a switch from Pentium-III to 'low power' Pentium-4 CPUs.
Board-integrated Larrabee might offset ever increasing power consumption, but not if that GPU is to compete head-on with existing separate GPUs as currently being touted.
At some stage, a spare dual-core board could be a wise purchase ?

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Post #307121
Posted 25/08/2008 22:23:35


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Larrabee and the graphics in some of the Nehalem chips are two different things. The two are not related.


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Post #307126
Posted 25/08/2008 22:38:26


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Hi Jason
That makes definite sense for early Nehalem support motherboards, in-built graphics being a traditional motherboard maker choice, but are you saying that there will definitely be Nehalem chips incorporating similar limited capability and power-limited graphics along with their octal core etc CPUs ?

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Post #307127
Posted 25/08/2008 22:46:11


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I'm not sure I follow your question, Bruce. Larrabee, not due until around 2010 the last I heard, will be a GPU for dedicated cards. The graphics in Nehalem (the models with an on-chip (not on-die) GPU, that is) are a mere upgrade of what's already available in Intel's current integrated northbridges.


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Post #307129
Posted 25/08/2008 23:14:45


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