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ricedg (14/09/2008)
Sorry Tom, but every benchmark I've seen disagrees with you.
Vista is not quicker than XP, end of.
EDIT - just a thought from MS itself that proves the point.
SFF lappies i.e. the Eee, what do they run if it's not Linux?
I've yet to see a benchmark that has someone use Vista and XP for 3 months for the same sort of use. THen compare the speeds. Vista barely changes in speed, XP slows down majorly - in my experience.
Also day to day (not benchmarked - I dont know quite what you mean by benchmarks but surely they are uselessly artificial) I find Vista more responsive (for example explorer in Vista is a lot better, more responsive and more featureful than XP. Searching as well seems better IMO).
I fail to see what Benchmarks can say about the usefulness of an OS.... I use both day to day (and various flavours of Linux too). Vista is more responsive, more secure, better looking and more stable for me than XP.
As I say this is just my experience though 
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This is a Windows thread, debating the pros and cons of XP, Vista and 'Windows7', so I will not digress too much into Linux except to say that Ubuntu 8.04.1 and similar LinuxMint capabilities are becoming my yardstick for subjective assessment of XP and Vista whilst, like the world at large I don't yet know about 'Windows 7'
For my purposes, apart from Wiz! SuperPi and Slipstreem MPEG-4 encoding, other Benchmarks are fairly meaningless exercises, further confusing 'apples with oranges' comparisons that this thread is in danger of making, preventing any real Windows agreement.
Whilst I incline to ricedg's view, I can understand what Tom Morton is saying, as Vista Home Premium (VHP), after three months of incredibly slow, patronising performance has got slicker in the last six months, closing down the gap on XP (but not quite on 'the Heron'). (Edit - Video playback using VLC is now better than XP, but not quite as good as the Heron.) Please bear in mind that this subjective comparison is on my [A] rig, where everyday use assumes that Anti-Virus and Spyware suite updating etc has already taken place (which can quite routinely take about five minutes on XP and about eight minutes on VHP). 
After battling through evasion, obfuscation even lies about the hardware needed to run XP and then to run Vista Home Premium, I think that it could benefit others to debate the real needs of XP, Vista and eventually 'Windows7'
For VHP, although much is made of the need for faster, DX10 compliant graphics, I have found that a much larger, faster hard drive has been the No1 need, about 2.5 times the capacity and about 25% faster than for XP, followed by about 50% more RAM, with a 2.6GHz E2140 CPU then being a sensible minimum, where XP can get by with an older single core 3.0GHz P4. For graphics, DX10 compliance has been a fair indicator, but Nvidia 8000 series or better ? 
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Tom, I recommend cleaning your XP install once in a while.
Saves on the re-install every few months.
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I recommend cleaning your XP install
Freakshow! -- I think I know what you mean, but I may have misinterpreted your comment. Would you please expand it a little - thanks!
[EDIT] Slightly off topic question out of pure curiosity, which may need to be moved to another thread.
Does anyone know what causes XP slowdown?
I run XP as a VM guest within Vista. I just use it for VisualStudio C++/Delphi programming, and make no internet connections whatsoever from the XP guest. None of my development programs write to the registry. I only fully reboot the guest perhaps once a week after updates etc, the rest of the time it goes into VM limbo. All browsing, email etc are made from a Linux Ubuntu guest. At the moment, my only game playing is done from within Vista. Subjectively I've noticed no slow-down in performance at all with XP, (neither have I with Vista. Vista if anything has become more responsive). While there are too many factors at play to make a scientific deduction of what causes XP slowdown, it does suggest that a daily reboot, registry writes and/or internet connections may be contributing to any slowdown. While the first is controllable, and the second could be fixed by reg cleaning or making master registry copies and reloading them, internet usage is more difficult to fix.
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Sure.
I meant cleaning out old useless and temp files with CCleaner (or similar). Tidying your registry of old links and entries (I use Eusing Free Registry Cleaner).
Also defragging is a very good idea. There's JKDefrag or iobits defrag tool. It's always a good idea to use MSConfig to cut out startup entries so that your boot up is quick and doesn't load quicklaunches and software that you only use occasionally.
For my needs that is enough to keep XP running fast. Either Tom is doing something very wrong or he is doing something very advanced and the small drop that may occur is critical to him.
Each to their own, but I prefer it my way
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i kept my last install going for nearly 2 years without a noticeable drop in overall performance using Ccleaner etc etc
but if you must redo it every 3 months put your data (my docs etc) onto a separate HDD or partition then install the OS set it up how you like it with all of ur programs as well then clone the HDD restoring it when you think it needs it, the process taking about an hour (depending on the drive size etc)
and with all of your documents safely out of the way you will be going again in no time
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its not like - unusable performance drops. But I find Vista noticeably more responsive than XP over long periods (even with clean outs).
Live Onecare currently blitzes the XP registry weekly which has the biggest affect: but over time it *still* slows up 
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