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in terms of coding for a mac, the setup is similar to coding in Linux or Windows environment only the API's are completely different, and it too install applications or run certain applications as root you need to log in as administrator.
The idea that people dont write virus's for Mac because there arent enough Mac users out there I find very interesting. Considering nearly all media departments of any organisation, be it a corporation, charity or state run public service depend entirely on macs for web development, media editting etc (i fully aknowledge some dont) AND given the fact that 60-70% of web servers on the planet run FreeBSD (OSX's inards) you'd think that they'd be targetted somewhat more frequently than Windows users, but for some reason this isn't the case, or perhaps its just harder to write malicious software for OSX. I think one of Apples biggest threats right now is phishing scams asking for users MobileMe details.
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slightly of topic... something made me laugh a few weeks ago.
Im a graphic designer, work with 2macs.
browsing online the other week and i had a popup! my pc was infected, i needed to download XP Antivirus 2008!!! wow.... got me worried lol thought someone had transfered the insides of my mac with a pc.
hopefully not many mac users have been fooled by this, ifso then id love to know how they get the .exe file to wok on there macs.
That XP Antivirus 2008 is a right pain in the a$$ though, mate of mine had it on his laptop, i tired to tell him wat to do but the fool took it to pc world who then charged him £90 to remove it !!! ..... im not saying a word!
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SirTom909 (04/09/2008)
in terms of coding for a mac, the setup is similar to coding in Linux or Windows environment only the API's are completely different, and it too install applications or run certain applications as root you need to log in as administrator.
The idea that people dont write virus's for Mac because there arent enough Mac users out there I find very interesting. Considering nearly all media departments of any organisation, be it a corporation, charity or state run public service depend entirely on macs for web development, media editting etc (i fully aknowledge some dont) AND given the fact that 60-70% of web servers on the planet run FreeBSD (OSX's inards) you'd think that they'd be targetted somewhat more frequently than Windows users, but for some reason this isn't the case, or perhaps its just harder to write malicious software for OSX. I think one of Apples biggest threats right now is phishing scams asking for users MobileMe details.But.. those aren't really the targets of the majority of Virus writers. Those sorts of machines (uses) are probably more the target of organised crime and straight outright targetted cracking attempts (admittedly maybe using the same exploits a virus might). Virus' are really a home-user targetted (or rather mass user targetted) thing right?
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The attack on Redhat suggests that Servers may be next on the list. I would bet that BSD are/have avidly read everything they can on the Redhat attack and are looking for ways of strengthening their own Update security.
I know nothing about how the Redhat attack was executed, but I would be looking at internal Redhat security with a very jaundiced eye. It is a lot cheaper to suborn employee(s) than to write innovative attack code!
However, I'd agree that the end target even in this case will most probably have been end users (for bot control).
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Hi All
The write up on Apple in this weeks MM, states that one of the decisions made by Steve Jobs was to base OS x on Unix, so that is where the fundamental immunity to virus attack on Macs probably originates from.
Its the base security model.
Mad Malc
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| Also web servers tend to be behind decent corporate protection, like industrial strength firewalls vs windows home pcs sometimes behind bugger all. Getting to the webserver to make an attack will be a lot more difficult before you start.
Plus a web server's not clicking "yes" to email attachments... The security model gets a lot easy when there's no-one between the seat and screen 
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"My [simple] conclusion is that Macs are largely immune to viruses because there are so many PCs and not because Macs are better. "
What a great conclusion! Likewise I believe that I am imune to being shot on the basis that so many other people have been shot!
I love this kind of logic
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Pixel Kid (01/10/2008)
What a great conclusion! Likewise I believe that I am imune to being shot on the basis that so many other people have been shot!
Pixel Kid, that does not work. You are the same model and have the same OS as all those other people that have been shot.
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