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Posted 15/10/2008 18:31:30


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Thanks Slipstreem, very useful for my 1950pro

Win XP - Asus P5W DH Deluxe E6600 @ 3.0GHz with 2GB Geil Ultra DDR2 533(3,3,3,10). ATI X1950Pro 512MB GDDR3 PCIe (GPU 628, MEM 729)
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Posted 15/10/2008 19:09:44


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You're welcome. I hope it helps to extend its useful lifetime at least a little.

Cheers, Slipstreem.



System specs: "Phoenix" - Intel C2D E4500 overclocked to 3GHz with ACF7Pro HSF on Volt-modded ASRock 775Dual-VSTA mobo (modded BIOS rev 3.10A and VNB=1.65, Vagp=1.8), 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 RAM (3.0,3,3,8,1T @546MHz), Sapphire ATI HD3870 512MB GDDR4 PCIe graphics card overclocked to 850MHz GPU & 2.4GHz RAM running Omega drivers. Powered by Hiper Type-M 580W PSU. Guess who likes overclocking on a budget.

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MPEG-4 Playback Enhancement Using FFDShow
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Boosting ATI Framerates with CCC (X700 on)
Optimise ATI Image Quality and Framerates with Omega & ATT under WinXP (X1xxx and HD38xx Series)

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Posted 22/10/2008 11:40:57


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Just posting this as an update and to give people a heads up.

 Slippy recently pointed me in the direction of the new ATT version which has support for the 2 and 3 series GPU. Don't know if this is new to this version or not but earlier in the year i had a friend who had the hardware and was interested in trying it but there was no version that supported it and we got fed up waiting.

Anyway after a system upgrade i now have the hardware and the support so will be running some tests to see what a 3850 can do with and with out ATT.s help. From what i have seen on screen of the card it could do with some help in the smoothing of the  AA but we will see.

I'm going to see what options are there and go for something as close to what Slippy posted originally and tweak it from there. Any ideas or advice/suggestions welcome.

   Micromac

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Posted 22/10/2008 11:48:07


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Go for it! I'll be upgrading eventually and I'd really appreciate a resource I can refer to when it happens.

Cheers, Slipstreem.



System specs: "Phoenix" - Intel C2D E4500 overclocked to 3GHz with ACF7Pro HSF on Volt-modded ASRock 775Dual-VSTA mobo (modded BIOS rev 3.10A and VNB=1.65, Vagp=1.8), 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 RAM (3.0,3,3,8,1T @546MHz), Sapphire ATI HD3870 512MB GDDR4 PCIe graphics card overclocked to 850MHz GPU & 2.4GHz RAM running Omega drivers. Powered by Hiper Type-M 580W PSU. Guess who likes overclocking on a budget.

MP3 Encoding for Audiophiles
Fun MPEG-4 Encoding Race
MPEG-4 Playback Enhancement Using FFDShow
How good is the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro HSF really?
Boosting ATI Framerates with CCC (X700 on)
Optimise ATI Image Quality and Framerates with Omega & ATT under WinXP (X1xxx and HD38xx Series)

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Posted 03/11/2008 17:55:49


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Ok well i have re read the whole thread to refresh where we went and where we are now. My findings when trying to enhance the image with ATI Tools on a HD3850 are as follows.

I have found using different games Grid, Assassins Creed, Crysis and oblivion.That there is nothing that i can do in ATT's settings that can not be achieved equally in the CCC. Slippy spoke earlier in the thread concerning the use of the  tent and box filters and that they may be the equivalent of some of the settings we use to improve the X1000 series cards with ATT (correct me if im wrong slippy).

As i remember a lot of the difference is achieved by enabling the high quality AF features with ATT. Having done some research into exactly what changes ATI made when updating the archetecture the thing that stands out to me as the reason for the lack of sucess is that the high quality AF settings are on by default now. There are some more subtle changes in there that may also make a differance but this one stands out.

 The quality of the image with the HD3850  is when optimised in the CCC just as good as the image acheived by the tweaked 1650XT. (Just my opinion.) I can post a shot if you want ?

 Micromac

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Posted 27/11/2008 17:54:34


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Another quick heads-up...

Thanks to the very kind offer of an HD3870 for a bargain price from a fellow forumite (I'll preserve Mog's modesty by not mentioning his name ), I'm now running said beasty with ATT.

Not disputing what's been said above as it may depend upon whose drivers you're running, but I'm running the Omega drivers and the difference in image quality is still just as evident with the tweaks versus without them as it was with the X1950Pro. The difference for me with ATT, Omega and an HD3870 closely matches that shown in the before-and-after pictures in the first post of this thread.

I suspect that the optimisation of the ATI Catalyst drivers may be largely written in stone and not as controllable as the Omega drivers (just guessing), but if you own an HD3850/70 graphics card and enjoy fiddling and squeezing that last drop of shininess out of your graphics, you may still benefit from going with ATT and Omega.

To save any ambiguity, I'll provide links to the exact software I'm currently using with THIS Sapphire HD3870...

Omega

ATT

Have fun!

Cheers, Slipstreem.



System specs: "Phoenix" - Intel C2D E4500 overclocked to 3GHz with ACF7Pro HSF on Volt-modded ASRock 775Dual-VSTA mobo (modded BIOS rev 3.10A and VNB=1.65, Vagp=1.8), 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 RAM (3.0,3,3,8,1T @546MHz), Sapphire ATI HD3870 512MB GDDR4 PCIe graphics card overclocked to 850MHz GPU & 2.4GHz RAM running Omega drivers. Powered by Hiper Type-M 580W PSU. Guess who likes overclocking on a budget.

MP3 Encoding for Audiophiles
Fun MPEG-4 Encoding Race
MPEG-4 Playback Enhancement Using FFDShow
How good is the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro HSF really?
Boosting ATI Framerates with CCC (X700 on)
Optimise ATI Image Quality and Framerates with Omega & ATT under WinXP (X1xxx and HD38xx Series)

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Posted 27/11/2008 21:04:13


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Thanks for the heads up slippy, can i ask what games you benched on ?

I will definatly give the new drivers and ATT a whirl when im next off shift.

  Micromac

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Posted 27/11/2008 22:22:30


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I've only checked it out on CSS and Project Torque so far as the HD3870 only went in today and I'm keen to get playing.

Minor correction to the above: Some of the advanced settings, SAOOM, EATM, etc, in certain combinations actually lower image quality and don't help framerates so I've left those all off for now. Everything else seems to be working nicely though. Enabling Temporal Antialiasing gives you the option of Edge-Detect for SSAA, so you might like to play with that.

Cheers, Slipstreem.



System specs: "Phoenix" - Intel C2D E4500 overclocked to 3GHz with ACF7Pro HSF on Volt-modded ASRock 775Dual-VSTA mobo (modded BIOS rev 3.10A and VNB=1.65, Vagp=1.8), 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 RAM (3.0,3,3,8,1T @546MHz), Sapphire ATI HD3870 512MB GDDR4 PCIe graphics card overclocked to 850MHz GPU & 2.4GHz RAM running Omega drivers. Powered by Hiper Type-M 580W PSU. Guess who likes overclocking on a budget.

MP3 Encoding for Audiophiles
Fun MPEG-4 Encoding Race
MPEG-4 Playback Enhancement Using FFDShow
How good is the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro HSF really?
Boosting ATI Framerates with CCC (X700 on)
Optimise ATI Image Quality and Framerates with Omega & ATT under WinXP (X1xxx and HD38xx Series)

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