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RE: Save Amiga Mart!

VC-20 — Fri, 02 May 2008 23:22:29 GMT

I thought Amiga Mart has been saved, it is in edition 1001 after all? I feel sorry for poor old Vic-20 Mart, nobody ever worried when that section was brought to a close, so why worry about Amiga Mart?

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

Dangerous Dave — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:33:47 GMT

Just my 2 penneth worth, here.

I, too used to own an Amiga. It started out as an A1200 with a 10Mb HDD (no that's not a typing error!) and ended up as a kind of Franken-Miga in a full tower case, with P/S2 keyboard, Blizzard '040 expansion, Blizzard SCSI, 48Mb Fast Ram, Kickstart 3.6, Surf Squirrel (because the Blizzard wouldn't recognise ejectable SCSI media) and a nightmare of homemade SCSI data cabling inside.

I've also seen the Amiga Rise, fall, fall and further fall through messageboards such as MooBunny and Amiga News Network.

So . . . while I appreciate the coverage of Amiga news in Micro Mart, and believe that it contributes to the magazines sense of identity greatly, I feel it's time to fold it into an "Alternative O/S" page that covers other operating systems that are out there and may, like AmigaOS "hanging on by the skin of their teeth". Some suggestions would be RiscOS, Ataris O/S, Haiku, QNX, the various BSD's etc.

By "bundling together" the alt.OSes maybe a bigger space could be allocated on a weekly basis, with the "OS du jour" rotating on a schedule, or as news becomes available. I think it would fill a useful gap between the magazines great coverage of the cutting edge and retro sides to computing.

Anyway, just my opinion.

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

conrad101 — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:36:54 GMT

As an Ex-Amiga 500 owner, I do have soft spot for it but the circumstances facing the Amiga at the moment are kind of very confusing and I'm often left seriously puzzled by what I've read in this section. In that the Amiga in 2008 represents a really small user base, I do agree that there is a lot of merit in doing something like an "alternative" feature instead. The retro computers of which the Amiga is one, do deserve coverage so maybe this whole angle should be totally re-packaged but a weekly column for the Amiga alone isn't justified.

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

Major Owned — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:04:13 GMT

amiga mart was what surprised me when i first picked up the mag, i'm all for keeping it,

i'd also like to see a risc os mart tho!

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

jody! — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:29:31 GMT

what about a dave rice section, bit like system builder, but networker ??
id read that ??
if dave has forgotten more than jason knows ( read it somewhere on forum ) it's gotta be good ??
im just trying to setup a nas drive, doing my head in, so there's the first week sorted lol

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

gully666uk — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:10:54 GMT

The first amiga i had was a 1.3 amiga 500 then a 2.0 the a600 then an a1200.And now i have none :(.I would be really sad to see it go as i still like to know what is going on in the scene and it's great to bring back memories of playing it came from the desert in the dark at home when i was a kid......."thirsting for the destruction for all that is human!"

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

Niceguy1979 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:56:41 GMT

When I first found out there was an Amiga column in a magazine that is reasonably priced I was really happy. Now, when I have the spare cash I pick the mag up and have a read. If it stopped I would be less inclined to buy it, but wouldn't stop buying it altogether I don't suppose.

NiceGuy1979
Midland Amiga Group (MAG - http://come.to/mag )

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

MartenReed — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:50:14 GMT

What I'm saying is that Amiga mart should be made infrequent and larger, so it gets more readers (1/3 of a page vs 2 pages), and I'm sure this would suit Sven better, and make the article easier to write, and it would always have some good content. :)

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

Croatoan — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:21:06 GMT

[quote][b]MartenReed (16/02/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]systemerror (16/02/2008)[/b][hr]Amiga mart is an important part of micro mart. i don't want to see it go as its interesting to read.if it does go i will stop buying micromart.:crying:

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Isn't that a rather poor reason to stop buying?

From what I know, Sven will still get the odd bit in the magazine to talk about Amigas, but it won't be every issue.
I know a lot of you will disagree with me on this but the Amiga has had it's day for now, and it's a small enthusiast market, and I wouldn't be suprised if Sven struggles to find something to write about currently. But yes, I find it a good read, but being transformed into maybe a larger, less frequent position would be more beneficial? :)[/quote]

I likewise agree, for a publication of nearly 200 pages..................its ridiculous to suggest you would stop buying it for half a page of amiga "news"

Yes keep the amiga to please the beardy grumblers, but keep it in context. Could have a big part in a retro section.

The amiga died years ago, sure it has its followers but then again so does every other retro machine.

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

MartenReed — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:10:23 GMT

[quote][b]systemerror (16/02/2008)[/b][hr]Amiga mart is an important part of micro mart. i don't want to see it go as its interesting to read.if it does go i will stop buying micromart.:crying:

[/quote]

Isn't that a rather poor reason to stop buying?

From what I know, Sven will still get the odd bit in the magazine to talk about Amigas, but it won't be every issue.
I know a lot of you will disagree with me on this but the Amiga has had it's day for now, and it's a small enthusiast market, and I wouldn't be suprised if Sven struggles to find something to write about currently. But yes, I find it a good read, but being transformed into maybe a larger, less frequent position would be more beneficial? :)

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

systemerror — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:20:42 GMT

Amiga mart is an important part of micro mart. i don't want to see it go as its interesting to read.if it does go i will stop buying micromart.:crying:

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

BooBoo — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:33:13 GMT

Sven coverage of Amiga has been fantastic and I know im only one persion but i probably wont bother grabing Micro while waiting for the train any more to find out the latest on the soap opera that is Amiga - Maybe a new column including Atari St and other machines of similar natur could be cool but Micro mart will just end up like every other Pc mag -Also maybe not realy my cup of Tea but further coverage of Aros,MorphOs,Amithlon and X-Amiga Etc as alternative X86 OS Anyway if Sven does disappear -Very Best Wishe Sven!!!!:D:D:):):):D:D:P;):w00t::cool::cool:

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

Croatoan — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:43:58 GMT

I have read with some interest the debate regarding the potential dropping of the amiga as a regular column.

Whilst I agree that the amiga in its day was a superb home computer and has many loyal followers that still use the machine to this day.

I do think we need to get this in perspective, rumours surrounding its rebirth in various disguises have failed to materialise. Sure a few boards turned up and the OS can be ported to other platforms.

At the end of the day its finished. I have no problem with i remaining in Micro Mart as I do like to skip a few pages and you can never please everyone with all the articles.

I do however feel that now years after the amiga was resigned to a cult following, it is time to clearly stamp it as retro and should perhaps form a significant part of a retro section.

Sometimes I do feel Micromart does struglle for articles and revisits or revamps articles.

There are a wealth of retro machine from a bygone age which I for one would love to read about. Most of these like the Amiga do deserve coverage and make interesting reading.

As such why cant we do the following.

4 pages,

one amiga related which is weekly.

One "what are you doing with your retro machine". readers encouraged to submit arcticles with pictures

one page Best retro games for a specific platform. different one each week. perhaps encourage web votes by system / game

one page for " the machine that time forgot" more obscure stuff - obscure dust gathering machines

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

turner74 — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 00:28:20 GMT

it would be a sin to destroy a small part of mm i read the pieces even tho it doesnt appeal to me much.its what makes micromart , micromart if that makes sense

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

wanderjahre_ron — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:10:26 GMT

I don't have an Amiga or any interest, but would hate to see the column vanish. Its part of the quirkiness and almost fanzine quality (In the nice sense of a mag with soul and attitude) that makes mm so appealing.

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

Tom Morton — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 05:29:41 GMT

Id read that sort of column more than an Amiga-only one :) probably.

+support for the idea!

Dont let it die though- it's one of the quirks that makes MM so unique.

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

ricedg — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:58:57 GMT

I'd read that sort of column.

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

Jason — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:02:04 GMT

Absolutely. Couldn't agree more.

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

Steve_Y — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 22:55:09 GMT

I can't say I've got a huge amount of interest in the Amiga myself, but it would be a shame to lose all Amiga coverage. I think the "Alternative Mart" idea isn't a bad one. Along with the Atari ST there's Acorn RISC OS, with interesting new hardware and software still being released for that platform. There's even a Sinclair QL scene still going strong.

Along with those hardware platforms, that section of the mag could bring up alternative operating systems. After all, Linux has had a huge amount of coverage, with pretty obscure distributions being discussed. Of course it's by far the most popular alternative OS, but there are others out there with interesting features and a lot of potential. For example [url=http://haiku-os.org/]Haiku[/url], the open source successor to BeOS, or [url=http://www.skyos.org/]SkyOS[/url], a full desktop OS with some interesting features. The amazing thing about SkyOS is that it's created almost single-handedly by one programmer (Robert Szeleney) in his spare time. Puts my occasional bit of dabbling in programming into perspective...

There's plenty of interesting content out there to fill a page every week.

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

Dingo — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:42:11 GMT

Amiga i think is worth keeping in the magazine. i've really enjoyed reading about what should have been. Its interesting to read about a company taking a different perspective on technology and what they have come up with also without micromart i would never have known. :w00t:

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

Teafie — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:51:33 GMT

The Amiga has such potential.

It just need shouting up.

MM will suffer I feel.

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

DougieB — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:48:03 GMT

Please do not stop Amiga Mart. I have an Amiga 1200 with a Blizzard upgrade 50 Mhz and 16Meg Ram and I always read Amiga Mart to hear the latest no the new OS and other possibilities.

DougieB

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

mickeymouse — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:46:26 GMT

[quote][b]darrelljon (10/11/2007)[/b][hr]Saddening but plenty of dedicated Amiga websites exist, [/quote]

To purchase the mag as often as possible and to read articles on the Amiga platform I found interesting and educating.

To only have part time web access, plenty of Amiga websites is not always an advantage over reading it in the magazine.

It would be a sad loss

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

Mikey C — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:42:22 GMT

As I recall, it was only a threat, it doesn't mean he has to carry it out ;-)

Personally, I think Sven should concentrate on reviewing the latest apps/utilities/games that appear for Amiga OS4.

Whilst there aren't many commercial offerings, (although, there are some, DVPlayer, Fryingpan, Hollywood, etc) there are plenty of ports/original ideas to keep him going for months on end over at OS4Depot. Add that, and the never ending titbit of news on how Amiga inc, (now apparently called Amino Developments once more) appear to be constantly shooting themselves in the foot in trying to aquire the IP/Source code back from Hyperion Entertainment who developed OS4.

Honest, you couldn't make it up!

RE: Save Amiga Mart!

darrelljon — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:04:48 GMT

Saddening but plenty of dedicated Amiga websites exist, and perhaps if the Amiga takes off again one day, Amiga Mart will return.

Save Amiga Mart!

Jason — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:11:41 GMT

I was saddened to read that Amiga Mart is to end in issue 1,000. While I appreciate that, given the shambles that is the Amiga market at the moment and given the niche nature of that market, it must be hard for Sven to find things to write about week after week, I think Micro Mart will suffer if Sven's contibutions disappear altogether.

Would it not be possible to rebrand Sven's section as Alternative Mart (or something snappier), a section that looks not only at Amigas but other platforms, too? Platforms such as the Atari ST, and maybe some really retro systems (not the games machines covered by Retro Mart). I guess it depends on Sven and his wider knowledge.

Just a thought.