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RE: Reading NTFS volumes.

ricedg — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:07:33 GMT

Right click on the file / folder / whatever and choose properties / security tab.

See if you can change permissons here, if not you'll have to take ownership and to do that press the advanced button / owner tab.

RE: Reading NTFS volumes.

Tippon — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:50:49 GMT

[quote][b]cocorico (19/08/2008)[/b][hr]Anytime I try to copy any data accross from the external drive, it says that I don't have permission.[/quote]

Does it say you don't have permission to copy, or to paste? Have you tried making a new folder on your desktop and pasting the data there? Or possibly try running Explorer as Admin and see if that helps.

I think it was Captain CAD who posted a trick for XP where you turn off simple file sharing, then can change ownership of a file / folder so it can be accessed by anyone, but I can't remember the exact steps of how to do it.

RE: Reading NTFS volumes.

malc_wright — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:43:08 GMT

Okay,

So you seem to have a Vista permissions problem, how about using a Linux Live CD, like PCLinuxOS 2008 Minime, to boot the laptop with the external drive attached and then see if you can:

- copy the files to the laptop hard drive.
- change the permissions on the external hard drive

Hope this helps.

RE: Reading NTFS volumes.

cocorico — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:09:00 GMT

No Malc,

The data isn't on the Fedora Machine, the Fedora machine is now out of the picture [ from the point of view of the laptop data recovery anyway], and I have the hard drive of the old laptop connected by USB in a 2'5" external drive bay to a second laptop running Vista Home Premium.

Anytime I try to copy any data accross from the external drive, it says that I don't have permission.

Thanks John

RE: Reading NTFS volumes.

malc_wright — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:48:10 GMT

Hi

If you copied the original data from the old laptop drive to your Fedora machine, then there are several ways of transferring the data to the laptop.

Network the Fedora box and new laptop together and copy the files over.

Burn the files to CD/DVD and transfer them over.

The permissions problem would appear, from the sound of it, to be that the old XP user name and the new Vista user name aren't recognised by Vista as being the same user. Could it just be as simple as a slightly different user name, which is causing your Vista permissions problem?

RE: Reading NTFS volumes.

cocorico — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:09:06 GMT

Thanks all for the contributions. Things have changed a bit since, and I have another laptop that I am going to be transferring the outlook data file [outlook.pst] to this new laptop which is running MS Vista Home Premium [yeuch].

Problem is that when I attach the drive from the other laptop in a USB case as an external drive to the replacement laptop, I can't copy or transfer the pst file, because it says I don't have the permission.

Anybody got any ideas on that?

Should I now be finishing this discussion here and tranferring it to a Windows sub-forum?

Your responses are not wasted btw, cos I will still be doing the work on the Fedora machine to read NTFS drives!

Many Thanks John

RE: Reading NTFS volumes.

Tom Morton — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:12:06 GMT

yum install ntfs-3g

mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/[device] /[mount path]

Sorted :) (although you might need to tweak the mount command a little, just man it an play with the options)

Have spent all week doing this in Fedora 5, 7 and 9 :P

RE: Reading NTFS volumes.

Bruce R — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:06:18 GMT

Posted from a tottering back into life [B] rig (my browser [C] rig died last night !)

Why not try a PartEdMagic2.2 LiveCD, from :
[url]http://partedmagic.com/wiki/PartedMagic.php?n=PartedMagic.Downloads[/url]
It's Thunar File Manager should be Fedora-compatible, whilst Its 2.6 series kernel should help. Could be worth a quick try, It's just been invaluable rescuing my [C] rig drive data and source files. ;)
(A Maplin A35FQ was also extremely helpful.)

Edit PS - 18aug2008 - PartEdMagic is now at version 3.0 and it's an even better toolkit, with more Windows Explorer like file access and transfer.

RE: Reading NTFS volumes.

cocorico — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:41:30 GMT

Hi Grenville,

That sounds like a fairly problem free plan. I don't have a copy of Puppy but that is easily sourced anyway. The plan A will not work because the Windows Machine won't even post. It's dead as a door-nail. But the plan B, i.e. booting Puppy live from the Fedora machine should work.
On the long term I'll probably have to replace Fedora 5 with either latest version of Fedora, Suse or Mandriva. The system is a Dell Poweredge [pedistal style] with 2 x Pentium 3.0 ghz Xeons and 2 gig ECC ram so should be able to cope with the relative bloat of a latest release RPM Linux.

Thanks John

RE: Reading NTFS volumes.

Grenville Grimace — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:00:14 GMT

Boot the Windows machine with a Puppy Linux cd. Attach a usb drive, mount it, then mount the Windows hdd. Copy your files to the external drive.

Or...

Put the Windows drive into a usb enclosure. Boot your Fedora box with a Puppy Linux cd and attach the usb drive. Mount the Fedora 'Home' partition and the usb drive, then copy your files from the usb drive to the Fedora 'Home' partition.

RE: Reading NTFS volumes.

cocorico — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:48:41 GMT

Hi Gn2. This seems a sensible option, but the process seems quite complicated. I'm a little wary of messing things up!

Many Thanks John

RE: Reading NTFS volumes.

cocorico — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:32:50 GMT

Nope, you get a pop up window that says 'ERROR! Cannot mount volume. The volume uses the ntfs file system which is not supported by your system.'
I took a screenshot of it but can't load the pic into this posting, because it is in .png format, and the forum won't accept it.

Thanks John

RE: Reading NTFS volumes.

gn2 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:29:16 GMT

Do you have ntfs3g installed?

[url]http://www.ntfs-3g.org/[/url]

RE: Reading NTFS volumes.

-Wiz!- — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:14:25 GMT

It should see it straight away. Ubuntu sees my NTFS partitions and allows me access. :) You may just have to right click and mount the volume.

Reading NTFS volumes.

cocorico — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:03:27 GMT

Hi All,

I've recently developed a problem with a windows machine and my only other working computer available to secure my date from is a PC running Fedora 5. What I want to do is put the hard drive out of the windows machine into a USB enclosure, attach it to the Fedora machine, and secure the data from it.
The Windows machine was running MS XP Home and is formatted to NTFS. Does anybody know how to get the Fedora to be able to read the NTFS volume?

Many Thanks John