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RE: What's in a name?

malc_wright — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:27:18 GMT

It's not the cost of a CD compared to DVD that most people will baulk at, its the download time and the effect of the download size on any download limits you have with you ISP, which will restrict the take up of 'Frugalware.'

So its packaging and distribution method definitely isn't Frugal..

RE: What's in a name?

The VFM (Value For Money) Addict — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:19:25 GMT

No it doesn't cost 7 times more but it does cost [i]more[/i]. Why not release a frugal Frugalware which fits on a single cd and is frugal as regards the time/bandwidth it takes to download therefore being frugal with the downloaders time and electricity bill? :hehe:

(Think I might submit the above as my entry for [i]Pedant of the Week[/i] ;))

RE: What's in a name?

MartenReed — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:41:26 GMT

A little bit extra on a DVD allows them to put just under 7 times more data onto one disc, and I'm assuming a DVD doesn't cost 7 times as much as a CD, even in bulk.

It's a compromise solution ;)

RE: What's in a name?

The VFM (Value For Money) Addict — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:17:29 GMT

Your link says, "Practicing or marked by economy, as in the expenditure of money or the use of material resources." Aren't CD's more economical to buy than DVD's.......:P ;):D

RE: What's in a name?

Grenville Grimace — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:10:08 GMT

Seems perfectly clear to me...

Obviously they are not referring to the physical size of the iso. Rather more likely, the reference is towards the economical approach they take to building the distro.

[url]http://www.thefreedictionary.com/frugal[/url]

RE: What's in a name?

malc_wright — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:46:56 GMT

May be Frugalware is a mnemonic?

Flaming ridiculously unnecessary gigabytes appearing little when apostate reads entry

RE: What's in a name?

The VFM (Value For Money) Addict — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:30:42 GMT

True......but it turns out that that is still over 600mb, hardly frugal when compared to Puppy, DSL, Slackware or even Xubuntu and GoblinX Standard, which has almost every window manager built-in to its live-cd as a start-up option and still weighs in at well under 400mb.

Cheers,
vfm

RE: What's in a name?

Grenville Grimace — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:04:59 GMT

[url]http://frugalware.org/about[/url]

[quote] Question: What is "The Frugalware Philosophy" about?

Answer: Briefly: simplicity, multimedia, design. We try to make Frugalware as simple as possible while not forgetting to keep it comfortable for the user. We try to ship fresh and stable software, as close to the original source as possible, because in our opinion most software is the best as is, and doesn't need patching.[/quote]
[quote] Question: Do you plan to release a live cd?

Answer: Well, we have already a live cd, called FwLive. Currently it supports only i686, but an x86_64 version is also under development. You can find it in the standard release directories.[/quote]
[ ] fwlive-0.8-i686-full.iso 09-Mar-2008 22:46 644M

RE: What's in a name?

Basil — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:25:28 GMT

The non-repository is either using the first two CD .iso's (at about 700MB each) or the netinstall .iso

Edit; The net install is ~45MB

RE: What's in a name?

-Wiz!- — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:22:13 GMT

Imagine how big the non-frugal version would be. :D

RE: What's in a name?

The VFM (Value For Money) Addict — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:17:58 GMT

That's probably true but there seems to be no [i]"non-repository"[/i] iso available and a 4gb+ iso download kinda puts you off even bothering to try it.

Cheers,
vfm

RE: What's in a name?

Basil — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:40:54 GMT

Maybe that is including a chunk of the software repository too?
Debian also offers 3 DVD's worth of .iso's downloads but you only need the first CD/DVD to preform an install.

Edit; [quote]Which CDs do you need? If you install a server without X, only the first. If you need a graphical system, then you'll need the second CD as well.
Note
Don't download CDs 3-11 unless you don't have an internet connection! You can install language packs later from FTP servers if you need them.[/quote]

What's in a name?

The VFM (Value For Money) Addict — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:27:43 GMT

The latest version of [i]Frugalware[/i] has been released, 0.9rc1.

Now, given the name, how big would you expect the iso to be?

Wrong .....................its 4,239mb :w00t::w00t::w00t:

Am I missing something? Four and a quarter gigs just doesn't sound frugal to me.