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RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

Jason — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:32:35 GMT

Probably nothing, as Palicomp have been doing this for years.

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

ricedg — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:08:07 GMT

No, it is misleading and is designed to fool the unwary.
I wonder what Trading Standards would have to say on the matter?

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

JammyDodger — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:54:36 GMT

Just their way of marketing their products :)

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

Slipstreem — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:41:21 GMT

[quote][b]BJM (24/07/2008)[/b][hr]Question? - outside pubs there is nearly always a sign that says "Good Food"
Has anyone ever seen one that says "Crap food, supplied frozen in bulk by mass caterers and re-heated in a Microwave?[/quote]
Only after I've had a few and happened to have a stick of chalk in my pocket. :D

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

alex3410 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:40:05 GMT

a pub close by has "We have crabs" outside :P

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

BJM — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:18:11 GMT

[quote][b]alex3410 (23/07/2008)[/b][hr]i would not buy from them because by adding them together they imply they have no idea about it so does not give me confidence about the build etc :P [/quote]

No, just the opposite.
They know EXACTLY what they are doing, and assume that their target audience is ignorant of the true facts.
Which is probably true.

It's not exactly illegal, but is unethical. Still if that was the case, all advertising would be banned.

(Question? - outside pubs there is nearly always a sign that says "Good Food"
Has anyone ever seen one that says "Crap food, supplied frozen in bulk by mass caterers and re-heated in a Microwave? )

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

Slipstreem — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:05:43 GMT

The unfairness comes from the fact that they do it at all. It's a lie. See my analogy on page 1 of this thread regarding my 500MPH car. ;)

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

Tom Morton — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:50:49 GMT

[quote][b]conrad101 (23/07/2008)[/b][hr]It gives a misleading representation of the product, in fact, completely bogus representation. False advertising if I ever saw it. Advertisers cash matters but so does considerations like this.[/quote]

Thing is though to the ley man 10GHz is probably a better representation that 2.5GHz Quad core (where chances are they wont have a clue what it means!)

The unfairness really comes form the fact that not all system builders do it: which means those that dont spin the truth have systems that look worse...

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

Jason — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:26:08 GMT

[quote]they imply they have no idea about it[/quote]

That applies to about half the PC sellers out there, I reckon. :-)

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

MartenReed — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:10:41 GMT

Stop rubbing it in about the CPU speed! :crying:

Anyone who has read a certain article will know what I mean

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

alex3410 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:00:46 GMT

i would not buy from them because by adding them together they imply they have no idea about it so does not give me confidence about the build etc :P

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conrad101 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:08:55 GMT

It gives a misleading representation of the product, in fact, completely bogus representation. False advertising if I ever saw it. Advertisers cash matters but so does considerations like this.

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

Jason — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:50:44 GMT

OpenOffice is open-source and anyone can do whatever they like with it -- including making money from it or using it to add value to a system. AVG Free is a different matter, as it's not open-source.

Palicomp are quite a big player on eBay as a system builder/seller. They've been using the old speed-rating trick for several years. Not good, but their feedback suggests not many people are bothered by it. In such a cut-throat business, I guess it's one way to stand out from the crowd. I can't say I blame them, to be honest. Indeed, I've thought more than once about doing the same...

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

Tom Morton — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:39:50 GMT

[quote][b]gunman127 (23/07/2008)[/b][hr]I was under the impression that AVG Free and OpenOffice are free to the end user, but never to be preinstalled with the intention of raising a products value, as it's profiteering on whats meant to be a free program.[/quote]

Depends on how you look at it... from the other direction they are providing a service that keeps the price low but adds useful software for the end user (who might no know about it / understand it). It also encourages the proliferation of free software.

But in this case I think your correct :P

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

FreakShow! — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:33:54 GMT

if it is 1Gb on each 9600GT it is effectively 1Gb RAM as they share it.

Tri-SLI does exist for the top tier cards, such as 8800GTX, 9800GTX and the GTX260 and GTX280.

Very CPU limited and improvements are minimal over SLI.

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

Fuzzy-Felt Bloke — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:01:36 GMT

They have even added the two graphic cards together, see below and why would you want 8GB RAM. Is there such as thing as 3X SLI.

AMD Quad Core Phenom 9850 10Ghz

ASUS M2N-SLI (nForce 560 SLI)

8GB DDR2 800Mhz PC6400 RAM

500GB Hard Drive

20XDVD+/-RW With Lightscribe

2 x 9600GT 1GB SLI = 2GB TOTAL

Windows Vista Home Premium 64Bit

AVG AntiVirus & OpenOffice

6x USB2 & Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000

7.1 HD Sound, Firewire & 3xSLI Slots

That's it, I'm off to lie down.

Fuzzy-Felt Bloke :):)

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

-Wiz!- — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:35:52 GMT

lol...okay...:)

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

Slipstreem — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:25:48 GMT

[quote][b]-Wiz!- (23/07/2008)[/b][hr]They should have said it contains 4.4GHz of processing power.[/quote]
But it doesn't. It has 2x 2.4GHz. Not all software automatically uses both cores simultaneously or even at all. In the case of the E4600, Intel sell it as 2x 2.4GHz because that's [b]exactly[/b] what it is. :)

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

-Wiz!- — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:20:13 GMT

They should have said it contains 4.4GHz of processing power. To be honest the site looks shoddy and I would not buy from them even if I was new to computing. First impression and all. :)

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

Slipstreem — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:14:57 GMT

It's lying, pure and simple. No part of an E4600 runs at 4.4GHz. No part of a Phenom 9500 runs at 8.8GHz.

My car has a top speed of 125MPH. That's 500MPH if you add the speeds of all four wheels together. That doesn't make it a 500MPH car, does it. :)

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

gunman127 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:12:31 GMT

I was under the impression that AVG Free and OpenOffice are free to the end user, but never to be preinstalled with the intention of raising a products value, as it's profiteering on whats meant to be a free program.

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

-Wiz!- — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:08:04 GMT

:sick:...Is it lying or bending of the truth? Wrong either way I know...:)

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

Slipstreem — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:59:42 GMT

They blatantly lie on their website too. Look [url=http://www.palicomp.co.uk/Range_Base_Unit.html]HERE[/url] for evidence.

As MM have now been made aware via this forum that one of their advertisers is deliberately conning people, I'd hope not to see this advert in future issues.

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

RE: palicomp.co.uk processor rating

-Wiz!- — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:47:26 GMT

It's just advertising the speed of all cores combined. You see it on ebay a lot. :)

palicomp.co.uk processor rating

keith — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:56:25 GMT

Just reading this weeks mag and saw there add with a q6700 advertised at 10.64Ghz. I thought about reviving the 9Ghz thread for this but thought better of it , but isn't this just a massive marketing con to suck in the unitiated. It gets worse with an E4600 advertised at 4.8 Ghz. Now that is one seriously impressive overclock on some quality equipment or lining up someone to be bitterly dissappointed.