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RE: Q6600 overclock

Pheonix — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:54:48 GMT

getting back to topic- I'm struggling getting my quad stable at 3.0GHz in the p5n-e sli. Now there are a couple of issues straight off- firstly I've rolled back the bios to version 0608 as this is the only one that is any good for o/cing the quads.
I'm now running 2 executions of dual core orthos with processor affinities set. timings have been slackened right down for ram, its running at its rated 800MHz timings at 667MHz, fsb speed 333MHz unlinked.
It boots. not stable- increase Vcore from auto to 1.313
orthos runs for 43mins and then rounding error
I then increase vcore again- and its now bluescreening 5-10 minutes in. i reduce vcore, increase vram from auto to 1.92. same as before. reduce vram, increase vNB from auto to 1.38, same as before.
I set everything back to auto, Vcore up quite a bit (to 1.350V) POST but no boot. reduce to 1.33, and it boots, currently running 24mins in stable so far.

my question- I'm using small FFTs (most stress on cpu) - what is the most likely candidate for the bluescreens? I'm guessing not enough Vcore is the most likely explaination of rounding errors. single core temps are showing a max of 65C, motherboard at 46C. and my quad is a B3 stepping, not the less power hungry G0. any ideas?

RE: Q6600 overclock

-Wiz!- — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:25:50 GMT

It is noisy but not noisier than the sound of gun fire!!! :D

RE: Q6600 overclock

Mr Green — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:30:55 GMT

thinking new build :-) not sure about those tiny fans though got used to 120's now :-)

RE: Q6600 overclock

Bruce R — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:13:00 GMT

Here's a silver one, from Aria : [url]http://tinyurl.com/6gxb6b[/url]
Or here's a wider selection of cube cases, including the black Thermaltake :
[url]http://www.xcase.co.uk/c/118781/1/cube-cases.html[/url]

RE: Q6600 overclock

Mr Green — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:44:13 GMT

woah!!! yum yum ... one sweet ride :cool:

MrG

RE: Q6600 overclock

-Wiz!- — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:21:47 GMT

[quote][b]Mr Green (18/07/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]-Wiz!- (14/07/2008)[/b][hr]Very impressive. :)[/quote]

Whats that in your sig? can you post a link to a larger shot.... please [totally off topic!!!!]

MrG[/quote]

here we go -

http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Chassis/miniCase/lanbox/vf1000bws.asp

RE: Q6600 overclock

Mr Green — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:11:24 GMT

overclock even lol.... thanks

RE: Q6600 overclock

Uncle Bungle — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:15:33 GMT

...

[quote][b]Mr Green (27/06/2008)[/b][hr]Can you overclpck laptops? lol[/quote]

Here is one

http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=17739&category_id=383&manufacturer_id=0

RE: Q6600 overclock

PlaneMan — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:23:11 GMT

It''s his new handbag.:P

RE: Q6600 overclock

Mr Green — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:06:30 GMT

[quote][b]-Wiz!- (14/07/2008)[/b][hr]Very impressive. :)[/quote]

Whats that in your sig? can you post a link to a larger shot.... please [totally off topic!!!!]

MrG

RE: Q6600 overclock

Mr Green — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:05:31 GMT

[quote][b]Bruce R (15/07/2008)[/b][hr]Hi Mr Green :)
Sorry, had assumed from your temperature colour references that you were already using Linux 'sensors'. These were revealed to me by gn2 and Attercop, but I've been too busy repairing friend's PCs to write it up properly.
If you are using Ubuntu 8.04 (or 8.04.1) or Mint5, you've got it made. In Terminal, keep entering [i]sensors[/i] and you will get prompted for [i]sudo[/i] installation and repetitive sensor scanning, which will all spring into life after a Restart, only then responding to the [i]sensor[/i] command with a text display. If you then use Synaptic to search for [i]sensors[/i] and install [i]sensors-applet[/i] and [i]libsensors[/i], the 'Add To Panel' will then offer a simple graphical display, whose 'Preferences' allows the colour threshold adjustments that I referred to, and so it's better (and more fun) than minimised CoreTemp plus SpeedFan in WinXP. :cool: I hope that you find this useful for your Quad. :D[/quote]

Loaded sensor applet got a lot of info on my panel now :-) will try running fsb up again now I can watch those temps

Thanks

MrG

RE: Q6600 overclock

Mr Green — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:22:41 GMT

well I am using lm-sensors but not sensor-applet so will try it out thanks for that :-)

you do learn something new every day ....

thanks

MrG

RE: Q6600 overclock

Bruce R — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:52:34 GMT

Hi Mr Green :)
Sorry, had assumed from your temperature colour references that you were already using Linux 'sensors'. These were revealed to me by gn2 and Attercop, but I've been too busy repairing friend's PCs to write it up properly.
If you are using Ubuntu 8.04 (or 8.04.1) or Mint5, you've got it made. In Terminal, keep entering [i]sensors[/i] and you will get prompted for [i]sudo[/i] installation and repetitive sensor scanning, which will all spring into life after a Restart, only then responding to the [i]sensor[/i] command with a text display. If you then use Synaptic to search for [i]sensors[/i] and install [i]sensors-applet[/i] and [i]libsensors[/i], the 'Add To Panel' will then offer a simple graphical display, whose 'Preferences' allows the colour threshold adjustments that I referred to, and so it's better (and more fun) than minimised CoreTemp plus SpeedFan in WinXP. :cool: I hope that you find this useful for your Quad. :D

RE: Q6600 overclock

Mr Green — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:33:36 GMT

Yeah I could use hardware sensors in gnome ...... more of a htop type of guy... or conky!

Not noticed any real difference between this and the E4500 .... just read so many sites about how good Q6600 were at being clocked.....

Nice a fellow Linux user cool :-)

MrG

RE: Q6600 overclock

Bruce R — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:04:28 GMT

Re: Stressing in Linux, in case it helps. :)
With sensor settings adjusted to show green for normal low temp idle for CPUs, NB, SB and even GPU, I have found that with LinuxMint or Ubuntu multi-tasking stability, you can just keep adding tasks like video transcoding to load and stress the system, thus achieving amber and even red. ;)
(Reading this thread and others, the Q6600 sounds great, but E4600 will have to do for me. :P)

RE: Q6600 overclock

Mr Green — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:20:22 GMT

3.8 on air with my mobo and ram is not going to happen ;-( more so on air

up to around 3.5 you can run stock

could boot at 3.7.... 3.8 well I figure nearer 1.5 vcore [ouch!]

Yes water cooling would help but its the cost that puts me off.... but thats another thread :-)

Thats one cool system you have there

MrG

RE: Q6600 overclock

fakesnake — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:52:19 GMT

[quote][b]Mr Green (14/07/2008)[/b][hr]I have dropped it back to 3 gigs atm....

Vcore was 1.45 and it would not boot at 3.8gigs so I figure either more vcore voltage or ram voltage not sure which

Not really messed with NB & SB figured it would be a bad idea so they are stock

Of course it could be ram multiplier as its creeping up to 850

As I run linux there is no solid way to test how stable it is, the fact that it booted was enough for me

3.8 on air is my goal ;-)

MrG

[/quote]
you will have problems getting 3.8 stable on air cooling, that is the most i could get stable with hi end water.

3.7 is a really good clock on air, just watch the temps tho best not let them go over 70c long term..

RE: Q6600 overclock

-Wiz!- — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:30:25 GMT

I doubt it. :)

RE: Q6600 overclock

Mr Green — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:15:04 GMT

[quote][b]fakesnake (14/07/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]mog wilson (13/07/2008)[/b][hr]The addiction is creeping i see, 3.7Ghz fora quad is amazing.

warm regards[/quote]
just to show what a q6600 will clock at,just click on banner.
[url=http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=387732][img]http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/387732.png[/img][/url][/quote]

WOW!!!!!........ is that on air no waay!!!!

MrG

RE: Q6600 overclock

Mr Green — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:13:42 GMT

I have dropped it back to 3 gigs atm....

Vcore was 1.45 and it would not boot at 3.8gigs so I figure either more vcore voltage or ram voltage not sure which

Not really messed with NB & SB figured it would be a bad idea so they are stock

Of course it could be ram multiplier as its creeping up to 850

As I run linux there is no solid way to test how stable it is, the fact that it booted was enough for me

3.8 on air is my goal ;-)

MrG

RE: Q6600 overclock

-Wiz!- — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:46:04 GMT

Very impressive. :)

RE: Q6600 overclock

fakesnake — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:34:18 GMT

[quote][b]mog wilson (13/07/2008)[/b][hr]The addiction is creeping i see, 3.7Ghz fora quad is amazing.

warm regards[/quote]
just to show what a q6600 will clock at,just click on banner.
[url=http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=387732][img]http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/387732.png[/img][/url]

RE: Q6600 overclock

fakesnake — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:28:51 GMT

[quote][b]Mr Green (13/07/2008)[/b][hr]Got bored pumped my core to 1.45 now running at 3.7 gigs ...........[/quote]

good clock what sort of temps you getting when its stressed?

RE: Q6600 overclock

mog wilson — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:25:02 GMT

The addiction is creeping i see, 3.7Ghz for a quad is amazing.

warm regards

RE: Q6600 overclock

-Wiz!- — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:10:05 GMT

Very nice! :)

RE: Q6600 overclock

Mr Green — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:51:46 GMT

Got bored pumped my core to 1.45 now running at 3.7 gigs ...........

RE: Q6600 overclock

Mr Green — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:21:51 GMT

Well after upping Cpu voltage to 1.4 setting NB to 1.250 and SB to 1.5 [both stock!] fsb is at 400

Running at 3.6 gigs which is not bad at all Ram freq is 800

After that if I up fsb system locks [memory freq goes up....]

Tried at 411 [3.7] but system will not boot

Not sure if I should up Cpu voltage .... or what I really think I should do is call it day

Amazing cpu for the money ....

MrG

RE: Q6600 overclock

-Wiz!- — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:08:27 GMT

lol...My lappy is fast enough. :)

RE: Q6600 overclock

Mr Green — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:02:52 GMT

Right

NB = 1.350
SB = 1.5 [Now Stock voltage!]

will keep lowering NB

http://laptoplogic.com/resources/detail.php?id=15

'Underground'!!!!!!

RE: Q6600 overclock

-Wiz!- — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:53:50 GMT

You should see my bios...It's like an empty room! It echo's! Possibly could with a windows tool. :)

RE: Q6600 overclock

Mr Green — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:49:40 GMT

Can you overclpck laptops? lol

RE: Q6600 overclock

-Wiz!- — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:04:47 GMT

Thats another reason I love my laptop...Silent/mobile computing. :)

RE: Q6600 overclock

Mr Green — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:54:35 GMT

must admit I cannot stand a noisy system..... loudest thing in my case is the 120mm rear needs nylon mounts....

back on topic.... starting to drop NB & SB voltages

Once I get the sweet spot will edit my first post... may help others

MrG

RE: Q6600 overclock

-Wiz!- — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:43:37 GMT

Could always buy some long leads and put it in another room. :D

RE: Q6600 overclock

Mr Green — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:34:09 GMT

[img]http://www.cse.nd.edu/~dthain/courses/cse341/spring2005/projects/www/hovercraft.jpg[/img]

Pardon! :D

RE: Q6600 overclock

Slipstreem — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:16:55 GMT

[quote][b]Mr Green (27/06/2008)[/b][hr]Most reviews do not rate MSI boards as good clockers ......[/quote]
It all depends how a person defines a good overclocking motherboard really. Most overclockers working on a normal person's budget go for a CPU with a high multiplier then it doesn't really matter much which motherboard you put it in, as long as the BIOS is tweakable.

A C2D with a multiplier of x10 will get very close to 3GHz in a budget ASRock mobo (~£45?) and that's pretty much as far as most people seem comfortable to go 24/7 if they don't want to end up with a rig that sounds like a hovercraft anyway. :)

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

RE: Q6600 overclock

-Wiz!- — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:59:57 GMT

Cool. Good luck. :)

RE: Q6600 overclock

Mr Green — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:58:13 GMT

will do... ;)

RE: Q6600 overclock

-Wiz!- — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:43:43 GMT

You can push them if you choose but make sure they are cool. For 24/7 use though a more subtle voltage maybe in order. As you say if it's stable at 3.6GHz then slowly take voltages down until you find instability and then nudge them back up. :)

RE: Q6600 overclock

Mr Green — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:35:44 GMT

Right

NB is set at 1.425 [ 1.6 is Max]

SB is set at 1.7 [1.7 is Max!!!]

SB C P 1.05

Maybe [not tried yet!] try decreasing NB & SB see if it still boots... as I have upped Cpu to 1.4v

I'm itching to push to 3.7 rofl......

Really am out of my depth, read so many posts threads forums but its more to do with mobo,setup,cpu, cooler etc.....

Most reviews do not rate MSI boards as good clockers ......

MrG