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RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:54:52 GMT

Ok fellows,Think I can take it from here and thanks.

RE: First overclock!!

-Wiz!- — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:35:32 GMT

You have to bare in mind that those are the timings that my ram is guaranteed to run at. Yours may well do so too although from your cpu-z info those would be beyond spec. :)

RE: First overclock!!

Slipstreem — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:43:32 GMT

There should be settings in your BIOS somewhere with names similar to CAS#Latency, RAS# to CAS# Delay, RAS# Precharge, and Cycle Time (Tras). Those relate directly to Wiz's timings as listed in your last post in that order.

Take a look on the SPD tab in CPU-Z to find out what the recommended settings are for the speed you're currently running your RAM at and then slowly work your way down from there, one setting at a time using [url=http://www.memtest86.com/download.html]MemTest[/url] to test for stability.

Good luck! :)

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:36:59 GMT

I see you have yours at 4-4-4-12 Wiz, How is it done, Have resolved the issue with the pc crashing, Went off topic with that, sorry,

RE: First overclock!!

-Wiz!- — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:11:53 GMT

The timings are fine as now the ram is slightly under clocked. You can leave them as is or find out how to tighten them a little. As for the files that sounds odd. Try booting in safe mode and deleting them. :)

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:37:33 GMT

I have the following readout now;- 375.0Mhz

1;1

5,5,5,14

And in SPD 5,5,5,15 @ 400.

Dont know how to change the timings,One curious prob tho, Found stuff on the desktop which appear to be from Speedfan, When I go to delete the pc crashes and wont boot untill switched right off and un-plugged. Actually I now think its a file left from the log of Orthos.

RE: First overclock!!

-Wiz!- — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:11:04 GMT

The 5-5-5-15 that cpu-z says your ram is capable of. You may get them tighter if you try too. :) Just make sure they get the voltage that they require. Some boards do not deliver enough on auto. :)

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:01:48 GMT

ok, Will take down to 400,Can timings be adjusted at the same time,If so what would you reccomend?

RE: First overclock!!

Slipstreem — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:19:42 GMT

As Wiz suggests, try slowing the RAM down to bring it within spec. There is seldom any advantage to be had from overclocking memory on slacker timings. The tighter timings that you could then use may give you a measurable increase in performance. :)

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:14:34 GMT

Hi Wiz, I have no problem running at the current settings, Am happy at 3.56 on the cpu, Being new here I am checking that I am getting the best from the memory.

RE: First overclock!!

-Wiz!- — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:08:14 GMT

Your running your ram above spec. It should run at 400MHz. A nice OC on the ram but it could be why your attempts to over clock further fail. Use a different divider to ease the strain on the ram. Drop it to 333MHz. :)

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:00:12 GMT

The cpu-z memory details:-

450.0 Mhz

Fsb drams 5;6

Cas 5

Ras 6

tras 17

---------------------------------------------------------------------

SPD

266 333 400

3.0 4.0 5.0

4 5 5

10 13 15

15 19 23

Hope this is what you need , Thanks in advance.

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:56:49 GMT

Thanks guy`s,am away working till tomorrow so will check it out then and post here,Cheers.

RE: First overclock!!

Slipstreem — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:14:32 GMT

Run [url=http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php]CPU-Z[/url] and see what it says on the Memory tab. Compare the timings shown there to those on the SPD tab and let us know what the values are on both tabs. :)

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:08:05 GMT

No worries, I can see its possible to tinker with memory settings alright, For me its more a question of understanding what to set it to and why, What effect o/c the cpu has on memory.

RE: First overclock!!

MartenReed — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:13:51 GMT

[quote][b]yeoboy (23/07/2008)[/b][hr]Marten, Forgive me but can you be more specific, It can be confusing to a newbe but cant determine what you mean.[/quote]

Sorry if I was a bit blunt, I've not accessed the BIOS in a while.

But seriously, huge section! Lots of names like Wiz! mentioned there too. You should see 4-4-4-12 mixed up within..

Unless you need to tell the BIOS you want to change them.. Uh... I'll give it a think.

RE: First overclock!!

-Wiz!- — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:37:08 GMT

If you right click on it and view? :)

CAS, the two RAS and TRAS are the one you need to set as your memory requires.

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:53:22 GMT

not for me!! Ok, Think I figured out something on the Overclocking the `specials` page, Will try to understand the info there, cheers.

RE: First overclock!!

-Wiz!- — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:31:14 GMT

here...:)

[img]http://techgage.com/viewimg/?img=/reviews/gigabyte/p35c_ds3r/gigabyte_ds3r_bios_08.jpg&desc=Gigabyte%20P35C-DS3R%20DDR2/DDR3%20Combo%20Motherboard[/img]

Edit: Does that work?

Edit: It does...

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:27:11 GMT

Marten, Forgive me but can you be more specific, It can be confusing to a newbe but cant determine what you mean.

RE: First overclock!!

MartenReed — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:17:15 GMT

The timings... Big, big section on the page where you overclock.

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:56:57 GMT

Hi, The memory is OCZ 2x1gb ddr2800/pc6400 Platinum xtc cl4, As a matter of interest cpu-z reports :- Dram 450, Fsb 5:6, Cl 5 clocks, On the mobo (Gigabyte ds3r) I can see how to change voltages but dont know how to set timings, Am running a 7200 at 3.56mhz, Would be gratefull for advise.

RE: First overclock!!

mog wilson — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:23:36 GMT

@Yeoboy, Couple of things before i attempt to guide you regarding timings, What is your FSB at the moment, Brand/speed of your memory?

warm regards

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:25:06 GMT

Ok iI am bored now ,so need advise on memory timing, Basically I dont know how, But then I didnt know how to o/c and got my 7200 t0 3.56 in minutes.

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:21:16 GMT

Have returned the cpu to stock voltage and verified via real temp etc and it works fine, The temp dropped by 10c !!

RE: First overclock!!

ricedg — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:20:11 GMT

I'd be surprised if you needed to overvolt and that's where some of the increased temp will be coming from.
Knock it back to stock.

Even if it's really 72, it's still within operating parameters.
All C2Ds will "thermal throttle" themselves if they get too hot (they slow themselves down) and you're nowhere near that yet.

RE: First overclock!!

Bruce R — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:15:06 GMT

Hi Wiz! :)
As they are actually reading information from the same CPU die sensor, if you run CoreTemp and RealTemp side-by-side, they should agree within a degree. However, RealTemp also runs a display of Minimum and Maximum detected readings, which can be rather useful. ;)
A ten-degree difference is more typical of idle versus stressed readings or production variation between processors. (Some are 'hot' and a few are 'cool', depending upon luck of the draw.) :w00t:
(Meanwhile, Ubuntu Linux or LinuxMint [i]lmsensors[/i] and [i]sensors-applet[/i] display can be more informative.)
(Edit PS - I really must finish writing this up properly.)

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:05:33 GMT

Will study that but, Whilst running Orthos am getting a reading of 72c and idle its about 37c (i think), Have noted that someone on here is at 3.8 without changing the voltage, I am at 1.5v and am wondering if I could lower the voltage a bit.

RE: First overclock!!

-Wiz!- — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:33:41 GMT

Try RealTemp I think (Hope) it gives a more accurate reading. There is 10 degrees difference between that and coretemp on my rig. :)

RE: First overclock!!

Bruce R — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:21:16 GMT

If you run SpeedFan in its default maximized Window it will show a lot of sensor parameters, but minimized will only show a single, selected temperature on the task bar, which can be the GPU.
CoreTemp on the other hand, when minimized can show all the CPU temperatures on the task bar, for an easy, continual check, so you can see how different processes or problems are developing. :)
CoreTemp : [url]http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/[/url]
SpeedFan: [url]http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php[/url]

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:21:04 GMT

Thanks a lot,Am delighted with the end result here, Just need to be sure it aINT COOKIN.

RE: First overclock!!

ricedg — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:08:00 GMT

On the motherboard CD you'll find a utility called @BIOS.
It allows you to save the BIOS and update it from within windows.

For temps download Speedfan (free).

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:23:37 GMT

Have been running cpu-z and have used Orthos and all seems well, Howether, Where can I see temps? And cpu-z only reports the standard cpu details, I am wondering if I triggered the dual bios when attempting to up-date the bios version from F2 to the latest F3e I think it is on my Gigabyte GA-EP35C-DS3R P35,

RE: First overclock!!

-Wiz!- — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:00:27 GMT

Here: http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/385/

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:50:59 GMT

Ok, Was worried about does this work or not, It took seconds to get it to 3.56!! Was helped by an article I found with screen shots on o/c a 1.6 dual core.Is the memory clocked enough? and, Where can I get Orthos.

RE: First overclock!!

Slipstreem — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:49:27 GMT

[quote][b]yeoboy (17/07/2008)[/b][hr]Any comments please.[/quote]
Yes. Well done! :D

See? You were worrying about nothing with this overclock. I'd suggest stress testing it with Orthos for a few hours and seeing if it holds up. Just make sure that CPU thermal-throttling is enabled in the BIOS.

The seemingly incorrect reporting of the CPU speed may be down to Intel SpeedStep. It drops the CPU multiplier to x6 when it's substantially idle. There's no point in it running flat-out if you aren't using the clock cycles. :)

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:30:38 GMT

Well guy`s had un-expected time to start out, So far have set 375 in the cpu host frequencyand set 2.40 on the memory multiplier added 0.1v to the ddr2 over voltage and the FSB over volt control and took the CPU voltage control to 1.5v. System reports the cpu runs @3.56 but although CPU-Z initially displayed these speeds, It doesnt since I attempted to flash the Bios from vF2 to v F3e. The only place I can find the bios version is on cpu-z, So it seems to be running at 3.56ghz, Any comments please.

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:36:14 GMT

yes, am sure we will find it, Have found an article with screen shots on using MIT which looks easy to do and understand,Got to work away so cant wait to crack on tomorrow evening will let you know how it goes.

RE: First overclock!!

Slipstreem — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:31:36 GMT

Your BIOS version is highly likely to be displayed on-screen at some point during the pre-OS boot-up cycle. If not then it's almost certainly displayed on a BIOS screen somewhere. :)

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

RE: First overclock!!

yeoboy — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:43:55 GMT

Got my rig built, Using xp pro and just getting sp2 on,Will start tweaking tomorrow.It appears that version F3e is required after which Load optimum defaults is suggested, So i will check which version is on the board, have shut it down now having spent nearly all day building it, Not sure where version can be checked tho?