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RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

Fixtheleek? — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:30:20 GMT

[quote][b]ricedg (18/09/2008)[/b][hr]Good because the DELETE button was very nearly applied to most of the last half of this thread and still might be.[/quote]

Was Mark Pilkington’s latest, A Guide to Forum Netiquette, a small shot across the bows there Dave R:D

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

mog wilson — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:25:06 GMT

Im sorry Wiz, I will be moving the goalposts this weekend so you might need some LN2.:D

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

-Wiz!- — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:18:31 GMT

Only just! Am working on it...:P

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

mog wilson — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:01:41 GMT

My E8400:D

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

malc_wright — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:33:48 GMT

Hi Wiz

I'm intrigued by your sig:[quote]Intel e7200 @ 4.0GHz (4.32GHz SuperPi(e)) Lapped[/quote]

Now an E7200 is a pretty powerful chip, but what I want to know is which CPU lapped it?

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

-Wiz!- — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:02:26 GMT

I have no proof (I was not looking though) other than my e7200 runs very hot and other people report similar. I was reading a rather long thread on it at some random over clocking forum. :)

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

ricedg — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:57:39 GMT

Good because the DELETE button was very nearly applied to most of the last half of this thread and still might be.

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

Slipstreem — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:03:33 GMT

So have I. ;)

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

mog wilson — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:35:23 GMT

I dont use a handbag Mr Reed, However i have put my toys back in the pram:blush:

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

MartenReed — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:29:19 GMT

[quote][b]mog wilson (17/09/2008)[/b][hr]Hmm, Your correct that i can act like a big girly at times Slipstreem and my mrs tells me this all the time, You dont need to remind me.
My "watch your back" remark to wiz was a jovial( yet personal) remark to wiz himself, you dont need to flex the permanent chip on your shoulder and make remarks about things that have nothing to do with you.

If you can lower yourself down from your self appointed position as Micromarts resident Deity and stop digging at people, you might lose some of the Hubris that comes as an attachment with your every post.

Now we are clear on the matter that i can be a big girly and you can be an arrogant sod, Maybe we can stick to the task of posting here to help others and ourselves without reducing this forum to a primary school playground.

You are a tech legend Slipstreem, I just wished you would wind your neck in a bit.:)[/quote]

Put your handbag away too, Mr Wilson :)

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

mog wilson — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:07:12 GMT

Hmm, Your correct that i can act like a big girly at times Slipstreem and my mrs tells me this all the time, You dont need to remind me.
My "watch your back" remark to wiz was a jovial( yet personal) remark to wiz himself, you dont need to flex the permanent chip on your shoulder and make remarks about things that have nothing to do with you.

If you can lower yourself down from your self appointed position as Micromarts resident Deity and stop digging at people, you might lose some of the Hubris that comes as an attachment with your every post.

Now we are clear on the matter that i can be a big girly and you can be an arrogant sod, Maybe we can stick to the task of posting here to help others and ourselves without reducing this forum to a primary school playground.

You are a tech legend Slipstreem, I just wished you would wind your neck in a bit.:)

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

Slipstreem — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:56:40 GMT

OK. I've calmed down a little now. ;)

Would Wiz mind me asking how these temperatures were measured? Although it's hard to find solid values for Tjmax for any C2D, the E8400 is commonly reported as being 105°C and the E7200 is commonly reported as being 95°C.

If the temperature measuring software used was unaware of this and took the Tjmax of both CPUs as being the same, the E7200 would be reported as running 10°C hotter in relation to the E8400 even if both temperatures were actually identical.

Anything short of running a CPU with thermal-throttling enabled and no HSF will not tell you what the actual Tjmax is. Even then, you won't get an accurate measurement below Tjmax with any of the currently available software due to the highly non-linear characteristics of the temperature sensors inside the C2D which can vary significantly from CPU to CPU even within the same batch.

In short, has anyone managed to find temperature measurements made with an accurately calibrated thermometer placed as close to the CPU as is physically possible for both CPUs by the same person on the same setup? Nothing else is proof of anything.

I'm not setting out to make anyone look stupid. I just want us all to hear the truth. :)

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

MartenReed — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:22:25 GMT

[quote][b]Slipstreem (17/09/2008)[/b][hr]It "all kicked off" because you didn't provide any links and went all 'big-girly' when politely [i]asked[/i] to do so. Stirring things with behaviour like that and now comments like "watch ur back wiz" doesn't help anyone to get any nearer to the truth.

I've been looking into this too but can't find any certifiable evidence one way or the other. Maybe Wiz has now found something concrete we can all have a look at. :)

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:[/quote]

Put your handbag away Ian, that's all under the bridge now :)

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

Slipstreem — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:12:52 GMT

It "all kicked off" because you didn't provide any links and went all 'big-girly' when politely [i]asked[/i] to do so. Stirring things with behaviour like that and now comments like "watch ur back wiz" doesn't help anyone to get any nearer to the truth.

I've been looking into this too but can't find any certifiable evidence one way or the other. Maybe Wiz has now found something concrete we can all have a look at. :)

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

mog wilson — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:41:47 GMT

im glad im not the only one who has read reports that the E7200 runs hotter than the E8***, When i mentioned this in a thread a while ago it all kicked off(watch ur back wiz), Anyway, Why dont you go for an E8400? or if you can wait a month i will be selling mine.(E8600 here i come)

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

-Wiz!- — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:54:08 GMT

Ouch that's a lot of voltage! How hot does it get? I'm tempted to get one to pay with and then put in the girlfriends PC. :)

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

Mr Green — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:50:52 GMT

All I read is excuses! 4.3 and I will buy you a beer ;-)

E5200 runs in the slow lane atm 3.8 but 1.6v????? guess I have to hook up a sub station lol

MrG

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

-Wiz!- — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:43:06 GMT

Thought I would update this and sum up the end of my over clocking of the e7200...:)

It turned out that the Asus P5E-VM can not supply the stated 1.7v at all. More like 1.48v! :(. So my maximum OC was 4.32GHz for Super Pi(e). Not to shabby but no where near stable. It was also flaky at my desired 4.2GHz but thanks to Speccy Joe who pointed me at a simple pencil mod to stop the Vdroop the board can supply a true 1.6v under load.

This turned out to be way to much for my e7200 and the temps rose to 101 degrees!!! :P I thought I had a very bad sample but after some reading it seems the e7XXX do run hot compared to the e8XXX with more cache?

Apparently this is due to two reasons:

1) Due to a smaller die size the IHS cannot dissipate the heat as well as the e8XXX's. (So maybe not crippled e8XXX's?)

2) The e7XXX use thermal paste to attached the cpu die to the IHS where as the more expensive model are soldered to it which gives better cooling.

How true this all is I'm unsure but at least with the 1.6v available the next logical upgrade (Q6600) will get the thrashing it deserves. :) The e7200 is sat happily in the CoolerMaster Stacker at a nippy 4.2GHz for now.

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

specky_joe — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:27:14 GMT

nah i dont reckon the cpu is holding u back at all, its basically the same as what i got but last season model.

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

-Wiz!- — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:04:39 GMT

I think she'll last a long time as my gaming rig. Future upgrades would be an ATI 4870 and a Q6600. But I think it will be a while before she struggles. With a better cooler I could probably get 4Ghz for 24/7 use but I don't think the cpu is a bottle neck anyway. :)

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

specky_joe — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:59:23 GMT

u lucky wiz, i have some ocz ddr 1000 (2x2gb) but its shoddy for overclocking, i prefere geil orange dragon , imo better for the oc, hopefully the new p45 matx mobos will have some more options in the bios but who knows :D

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

-Wiz!- — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:55:23 GMT

I have 4Gb running at 4-4-4-12. :)

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

specky_joe — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:46:05 GMT

yo wiz, your right the nb cooler has plastic paste on it, mine came off with a turn of a biro lid.

I also stated that asus p5e-vm hdmi was amazing motherboard along time ago, alot of people were sceptacle but im glad to see that alot of people are interested in the board. There is some memory issus ie 5-5-5-15 is the slackest you can get, also v drop is apaling but yeah i love the mobo, cant wait to get my matx p45 on friday yesssss, i will post a full write up

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

-Wiz!- — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:15:25 GMT

They are not the quietest. They have a 90mm at the front and two 40mm fans at the rear. They all run off molex connectors and to be honest probably need to be 12v to keep it cool. Luckily this is no bother for me as I don't notice it when gaming and thats it's sole use. :)

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

nightlight — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:09:22 GMT

Thanks Wiz, I like the case.

Tempted to buy one, as it's better than my Aerocool M40 case.

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

-Wiz!- — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:25:42 GMT

Aria also do the case but only in silver and I prefered black. :)

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

Tippon — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:23:34 GMT

That's great. Thanks Wiz :)

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

-Wiz!- — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:10:58 GMT

[quote][b]Tippon (20/07/2008)[/b][hr]Wiz!, any chance you could post your full specs with links to where you got them please?

I know it's a bit cheeky, but you've got pretty much the rig I'm after, so I may just be able to upgrade a handful of parts :)[/quote]

No problem...

Spec:

Intel e7200 Aria
Asus P5E-VM Aria
2Gb Patriot Pc6400 Aria
250Gb Samsung Spinpoint Aria
Sapphire 3870 512Mb Aria
Zalman CNSP8000 Ultra Quiet Aria
Thermaltake Lan Box Micro_Direct

I would choose a better cooler possibly if I could but unfortunatly the cooler of my choice (Thermaltake Orb) was out of stock. :) I also bought this chipset cooler. I could not get the one off the motherboard though. I think it needs to be replaced whilst the chipset is warm but to be honest I'm not sure it needs it. :)

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

yeoboy — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:02:17 GMT

Hey Nightlite, I am using the same 7200 and DS3R board, What settings you using ? ,I am at 3.56 the cpu at stock voltage.

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

Tippon — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:15:03 GMT

Wiz!, any chance you could post your full specs with links to where you got them please?

I know it's a bit cheeky, but you've got pretty much the rig I'm after, so I may just be able to upgrade a handful of parts :)

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

-Wiz!- — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:32:31 GMT

There's so much more in this cpu but the case says no. :( Still Colin McRae Dirt looks and runs soooooo well. :)

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

nightlight — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:05:27 GMT

I run my E7200 at 3.8ghz on a Gigabyte DS3R board and all on stock voltages.

Currently using Buffalo Fire Stik PC6400,which is suppose to over clock quite well, but I can't get the timings right, might need some more volts.

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

mog wilson — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:50:15 GMT

Anyone want to swap an E6750 for an E7200?

thought not.

Nice job on the OC wiz.

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

-Wiz!- — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:59:31 GMT

Asus p5e-vm (mATX) :)

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

yeoboy — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:43:21 GMT

Just taken the 7200 to 3.56 easy, What mobo are you using?

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

-Wiz!- — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:50:05 GMT

As already posted elsewhere it's at 4GHz now. The ram is now slightly over clocked so a divider may be needed. :) Sub 13 sec Super Pi(e) achieved. :w00t:

RE: E7200 Overclocking Thread

Slipstreem — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:46:01 GMT

Nice! :D

This is invaluable information for anyone considering the E7200. Keep it coming. :)

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

E7200 Overclocking Thread

-Wiz!- — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:19:06 GMT

Well it's all been shoe horned into a tiny mATX case! :hehe:

Not being shy I have racked the fsb straight to 400MHz. This gave me 3.8GHz and a very respectable 13.625s 1m Super Pi(e) score! (It was sub 20 secs at stock!) It is now running Orthos and after a few issues namely vdroop seems stable.

I have read that they can get to 4.2GHz on air and if possible I will try for a suicide shot for a good Pi(e) score. 4GHz was attained as a stable system in the article I read but I have to bare in mind this is one small box.

Also I read that anything above 3.6GHz showed little performance increase in gaming so I may leave it lower for 24/7 use. :ermm: (Who am I kidding!) :D

To be continued...:)