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RE: Projector Asvice

Slipstreem — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:02:01 GMT

I have tried various games on both, and the DLP projector wipes the floor with any LCD monitor I've ever seen despite being very old in terms of hours and fit for the knacker's yard.

I'd go back to the projector any day personally if I could afford to feed it with lamps, run it and keep fixing it. DLP is still light-years ahead of LCD/TFT for realism and all of my games have now gone from being very real-worldy and immersive to just being cheap looking cartoons by comparison.

LCD can't match a DLP projector for [i]genuine[/i] contrast ratio, linearity of luminance reproduction, colour accuracy or response time. It's a technical impossibility when you look at the way LCD works. I do like my 32" AOC, but it's a very different kind of "like", and it's taking my eyes and brain a very long time to get used to its deficiencies when compared to DLP. :)

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

RE: Projector Asvice

Spedley — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:49:08 GMT

There is only one way to decide that, play your favourite game at 800x600 and at 1366x768 on your current screen and see what you think. I stopped playing Crysis at 800x600 on my projector and played at 1280x720 on the CRT instead because it was better and not just because of contrast etc.

RE: Projector Asvice

Slipstreem — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:52:58 GMT

Do the maths, Speds...

768/600=1.28, so a distant object that was, say, 4 pixels tall on 800x600 becomes roughly 5 pixels tall at 1366x768. It's a very small difference.

If the game scales properly to 4:3 for 800x600 and 16:9 for 1366x768, then you only gain in terms of resolution by the same amount in the X direction as well. The field of view is obviously much wider, but the increase in resolution is still the same for both X and Y because the pixels are still square.

As far as mapping objects to the screen with the correct 1:1 aspect ratio goes, 800x600 still gives you roughly 80% of the resolution in both directions when compared to 1366x768. :)

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

RE: Projector Asvice

Spedley — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:10:54 GMT

I disagree slippy. 800x600 is a lot different to 1366x768, over twice as many pixels infact!
While 768 isn't a lot over 600 the extra width makes a massive difference.
Super Sampling is great I agree, but Super Sampling your distant enemy that could take up only 20 pixels isn't adding much quality, you need resolution.

RE: Projector Asvice

Slipstreem — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:52:19 GMT

800x600 is fine for gaming as long as you have a real man's graphics card that handles supersampling properly. CSS doesn't look significantly different on my 32" 1366x768 display, except in the horizontal direction obviously. The difference between 600 and 768 is neither here nor there really. And yes. That projector has a native resolution of 800x600. It's pointless sending it anything higher as it just has to downscale it again. :)

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

RE: Projector Asvice

MartenReed — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:53:30 GMT

[quote][b]Tippon (14/07/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]MartenReed (14/07/2008)[/b][hr]Double the size of DVD exactly :)[/quote]

What is? DVD resolution is 720 x 576.

You slipping in your old age Mik? :P[/quote]

1280 x 1024 :)

EDIT : DAMN IT :(

RE: Projector Asvice

Tippon — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:41:51 GMT

[quote][b]MartenReed (14/07/2008)[/b][hr]Double the size of DVD exactly :)[/quote]

What is? DVD resolution is 720 x 576.

You slipping in your old age Mik? :P

RE: Projector Asvice

Spedley — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:08:27 GMT

I think is is only 800x600 but can scale down a maximum of 1280x1024.

800x600 is a little low in my opinion for a gaming projector, 1280x720 would be perfect (for FPS titles) and TV but the price is slightly too high.

RE: Projector Asvice

MartenReed — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:07:19 GMT

Double the size of DVD exactly :)

RE: Projector Asvice

Tippon — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:04:35 GMT

The projector from Oyyy has a max resolution of 1280 x 1024. Any ideas if that'll actually be any good? I've got used to gaming at higher resolutions, and you can fit a lot more on the screen when you're playing an RTS :D

RE: Projector Asvice

Slipstreem — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:28:12 GMT

800x600 is more than enough for watching standard definition DVDs. They only have a resolution of 720x576 anyway. The £200 rebadged Benq already mentioned is a fine piece of kit for the money, but the cost of a replacement lamp will probably approach the cost of the projector. As long as it's only going to be used for watching movies and not as a general TV, it's amazing how long 3,000 hours actually is. :)

Cheers, Slipstreem. :cool:

RE: Projector Asvice

Davo1 — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:08:42 GMT

Sry for the delay in replying

Have passed info to my brother, may be back if he has any further questions

Thx all

RE: Projector Asvice

nightlight — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:08:09 GMT

I have been tempted with buying a projector, but been put off by the cost of replacement lamps.

Some time ago I was given a Epson projector free, by a mate,it sat in my dive for months, ended up throwing it in the bin, as the replacement was about £190 plus.

Had a look at some projectors the other day all had different lamp types, wattage, etc, and prices for replacement lamps varied from about thirty pounds to hundred of pounds depending on projector manufactuer.

RE: Projector Asvice

Tippon — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 13:41:13 GMT

There's this from Oyyy, there's this thread I started in March, there's this thread where Slippy give some fantastic advice, including how to build you own screen, and there's this one, where muttzcutz has shown how good it can be.

I'll eventually be getting one myself, but not for quite a while yet, but these links should give some help :)

Projector Asvice

Davo1 — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:21:16 GMT

My brother is going to put a projector into a room for watching movies but doesnt want to spend a fotune, about £300 would be nice. Saw a thread on this previously but the link and projector being discussed seem out of date.

I dont think he is planning to connect a PC to it,if he does would that make any difference in choice?

The viewsonic PJ151D got a decent write up in MM a couple weeks ago but seemed more aimed at work use and does 800 x 600 resolution make any difference with widescreen movies? (confused as it say the projhector supports 720p and 1080i standard?.

I think Slippy also mentioned the BenQ MP511 as decent bet.

Any comments welcome

Edit: Bugger can a mod edit the title please, thx in advance