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RE: Cheapest possible C2D folding

Hughbert001 — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:58:13 GMT

Keith as always a wonderful source of information.

RE: Cheapest possible C2D folding

keith — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:11:39 GMT

[quote][b]Hughbert001 (12/07/2008)[/b][hr]does anyone have any PPD comparisons for the new ATIs and Nvidias?

I'm looking for a new GPU to put in an old rig to get it folding as well, or replace the 8800GT in my main and put that in the old rig.[/quote]

you'll find all the data you need here .

RE: Cheapest possible C2D folding

Keith_L — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:19:11 GMT

[quote][b]RangerOfFire (11/07/2008)[/b][hr]
if you need an HDD I may be able to offer you a brand new 80GB WD SATA drive for a good price (came out of my poweredge (not even formatted), its too small for actual storage use ;) so as long as its helping someone fold I'm happy ).
[/quote]

Sounds good Micheal :)
What sort of price are we looking at? Or shall we discuss this via PM? :D

RE: Cheapest possible C2D folding

Hughbert001 — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:05:29 GMT

I looked on the forums but I couldn't see any, must be blind or looking in the wrong place! could someone give a link to the PPD thread please.

RE: Cheapest possible C2D folding

Hughbert001 — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:47:42 GMT

okay I will do that.

RE: Cheapest possible C2D folding

Fuzzy-Felt Bloke — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:53:48 GMT

You could look on the Folding at Home forums, their topics are the most up to date for PPD

Fuzzy-Felt Bloke :):)

RE: Cheapest possible C2D folding

Hughbert001 — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:29:36 GMT

does anyone have any PPD comparisons for the new ATIs and Nvidias?

I'm looking for a new GPU to put in an old rig to get it folding as well, or replace the 8800GT in my main and put that in the old rig.

RE: Cheapest possible C2D folding

Death_Guy — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:03:23 GMT

RoF: The size of the L2 Cache has an big effect on folding and alot of the WUs Stanford have been releasing are very big such as Project 2665 so a Dual Core Celeron would never be up to the job. There's a big differerance between the Celeron's 512kb L2 Cache and the C2D E6xxx's 4mb L2 Cache.

I would recommend to have atleast one of the newer Core 2 Duo CPUs if you are going to fold 24/7 but it is worth keeping an eye on how the GPU clients are going as many people are pulling in some extreme points.

RE: Cheapest possible C2D folding

RangerOfFire — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:47:34 GMT

In which case I agree with Dave R's choices.

Adding a case: [url=http://www.ebuyer.com/search/?page=1&sortfilter=ascend&limit=10&intStoreID=2&intCatID=23]pick one[/url] of the £11 ones
and a PSU: [url=http://www.ebuyer.com/product/20083]almost generic 300W unit[/url] is claimed to be reliable by eBuyer ;) for only £7 (300W should be fine, my PC with everything running thats an E2160 @ 3.2Ghz and an 8600GTS at 900Mhz core (+ other stuff see Aurora in sig) uses 190W at full load)
EDIT: Since I don't advocate generic PSU's the cheapest real brand is a 425W hiper model for £23 [url=http://www.ebuyer.com/product/141597]here[/url]

SMP runs fine on my E2180 with 1GB RAM so take the £15 saved and use it to buy an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro for £15 or an Akasa AK965 for £10 that will keep it cool and also quiet. Then optionally add the cheapest DVD drive you can to load an OS onto it, if you need an HDD I may be able to offer you a brand new 80GB WD SATA drive for a good price (came out of my poweredge (not even formatted), its too small for actual storage use ;) so as long as its helping someone fold I'm happy ).

If the E1400's small cache doesnt affect folding then [url=http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Intel-Celeron-Dual-Core-E1400-2-0Ghz-512mb-800Mhz-FSB_W0QQitemZ190234657297QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item190234657297&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318]this on ebay[/url] may save £20, but someone else will need to comment on this.

Regards,
Michael

RE: Cheapest possible C2D folding

Keith_L — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:33:01 GMT

The ASUS partnered with the E2180 & 1GB ram sounding good so far ricedg :)

RoF: it will be a purely folding rig, and everything sourced from scratch (except peripherals)

RE: Cheapest possible C2D folding

ricedg — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:10:21 GMT

Just finished a customer build of a GA-73PVM-S2H and E2180.
Stable at 3Ghz.
Mobo £44, CPU £44, DDR2 667 2GB ram (single stick) £28 = £116

An ASUS P5N-MX has less bells and whistles but should still do the o/c and is £11 cheaper.
1GB DDR2 would save a further £15 :D

RE: Cheapest possible C2D folding

RangerOfFire — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:01:05 GMT

By silent I'll assume you mean silent @ 3ft (1m) not fanless silence 2 inches away from it ;)
Also, do you need to use this pc or just fold on it? and also overclocking OK?
Can you re-use anything or is this a build from scratch? Answer those and we may be able to reply with something (or maybe also post in system builders + upgraders).

Phitore: Another thing I'm very interested in these days is the PPD/Watt and given the rising cost of energy lowering our power consumption is something we would all like to do (folding ain't cheap :( ). A CPU apparently provides much better performance (PPD) per watt than a graphics card (read [url=http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=2048&st=0&sk=t&sd=a]here[/url]). Although a few nVidia graphics cards could lower your heating bills in winter quite nicely :P

Regards,
Michael

RE: Cheapest possible C2D folding

keith — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:57:10 GMT

points production whilst folding will be a balancing act between how much you want to spend and what points per day you are looking at. At the extreme you could have 2 *GTX280's and a Q6600 producing close to 18000 PPD. however , that would be slightly out of your budget and will not be cheap to run.

If you are looking to run 24/7 , power efficiency could be more important than initial purchase cost.a 9600GT will give about 4000PPD an overclocked 2180 running an SMP will produce about 1800 PPD .stick this in a cheapish Mobo like the the GA-73pvm-s2h and you would have quite a nifty points producer.

RE: Cheapest possible C2D folding

Phitore — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:00:49 GMT

It's an interesting time at the mo, a lot of people are getting more ppd with GPU folding.
Keep an eye on the the new thread "What are you folding on?" here - http://tinyurl.com/66xhba

For some interesting comparisons between CPU and GPU folding, providing our team members participate in the thread.

Cheapest possible C2D folding

Keith_L — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:48:55 GMT

Just started folding with my ageing socket A rig.
And thinking of upping my points by investing in some 'newer' C2D kit.
So i'm after pointers, recommendations, pitfalls.
On Processor, Mobo, Ram, PSU anything n everything really.

It will be folding 24/7, so has to run silently.

Budget??, mmmm, good question that..
Cheapest possible. (Free even :D alaways hopeing lol)