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Yay thanks for that m8  although I doubt MM will be sending me games to review... (hint hint  )
Oblivion destroys my PC too Teaf, not via the Northbridge just in general... Shame because it's one of my fav games...
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Tom
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I don't care about the IP address. It's the other factors that are alarming.
It's interesting that Microsoft's WGA tool has garnered criticism from almost every quarter (and been dubbed as spyware) -- including most of the people who are now defending EA, I suspect -- and yet WGA is nothing compared to EA's mechanism. WGA merely determines whether or not you're running a legal copy of the OS. Even if it discovers you're not, you're still permitted to continue (albeit with no access to certain updates). It doesn't try to sell you another product and (for the most part) only affects people who have broken the law (there are instances when it goes wrong, of course). I'm having a hard time coming to terms with the double standards on show here.
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And what does EA's software do? as I said all it does is record your IP. That is all it does!!
I don't like WGA but I see why it was brought in. I wouldn't consider that spyware and I respect M$'s right to try and protect their software. But as a person who runs a technically illegal version I don't want it installed (for obvious reasons!)
Also WGA does lock up the PC - at least it did to mine! My XP is a copy of XP corporate and when WGA first downloaded it said I had 4 days to buy a new licence.. I ignored it then 4 days later it wouldn't let me log in! I'm assuming this doesn't happen to Home / Normal Pro versions?
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Tom
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I have problems with the technology in BF2142 too. I struggle with in-game advertising at the best of times, and pretty much agree with Jason's first post in this thread.
I also take Tom's point about the effectiveness of in-game adverts, though, as a recent study has shown barely anybody takes any notice!
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| In my copy of MicroMart this week - which cost me £1.99 - approximately 20% of the magazine was devoted to 3rd party advertising. I'm not complaining, infact I barely notice because I expect magazines to suppliment their income. I'm not a subscriber although I suspect that on the bottom of the subscription form there is a little tick box which states 'Dennis publishing may give your details to a 3rd party for advertising purposes'. Now the only difference I can see is the tick box and that BF2142 temporarily gives my annonmous details to a 3rd party - they know my IP address and that I like computer games and that is it. I will not receive any further advertising or spam or phone calls or door knocking. P.S. on a similar note, MM does not include advertising 'fallouts' within it's pages which I had noticed and do appreciate.
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Spedley has a fair point there
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Magazines rely on adverts for survival -- without them, the cost of a magazine would be much, much higher. And magazine adverts are not targetted or regionalised -- everybody gets the same adverts. Video games are sold at a price that already makes a profit for all concerned. Charging customers full price for the product and then trying to push targetted adverts on them is just plain greedy and shows utter contempt for the people who keep the software house in business.
I've seen the argument that films use product placement and that EA are doing nothing more than that. But there's a difference: the money required to make a modern film partly comes from the companies who pay for product placement. So, again, why does EA need the extra revenue when the cost of the game already factors in the costs and profits?
It makes no difference, of course. Once EA and every other publisher sees that sales haven't dropped, everybody will be at it. And then someone will take it one step further...
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| I mailed Gordon a couple of weeks ago to see if he knew of a method to circumvent the spyware whilst still be able to play the game. Hopefully if he saw the message, I would hope he has an answer for this or next weeks mag.
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