Chat
Micro Mart Forum
Home       Members    Calendar    Who's On
Welcome Guest ( Login | Register )
        


12»»

Playing With A Projector Expand / Collapse
Author
Message
Posted 31/12/2006 10:22:47
286

286286286286286

Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 20/09/2008 18:21:18
Posts: 314, Visits: 823
Hey Hey, Well!! At first i was looking into a 50" plasma screen for my garage to play my games and watch films on in the garage. But after looking at the prices i decided i will just go for an "Ebay" projector instead. Now im not looking for SUPER UBER colors, and 1024-768 Resolution would do me ok.. And as 24bit color... But i was just wondering, Having absolutely no knowledge on projectors what so ever. Only knowing the bulb life, lumins etc.. Is there anything i should be looking for? a reaction time? LCD type thingy? or anything? it wont blow up if i play a game will it? im not looking for anything mega expensive, just somthing cheap tbh that will let me play my games and watch my films..

Anyone with any clue on what i should be looking for?! Thanks in advance!

ATI Sapphire X1950PRO 256mb
AM2 Dual Core Windsor 5200
2 Gig 667 DDR2
120 Maxtor
80 Japenese thing.
Vista 64bit ( MISTAAAKE )
550Watt PSU


Shot at 2007-07-11
Post #157409
Posted 31/12/2006 10:40:17


Pentium

PentiumPentiumPentiumPentiumPentium

Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 19/11/2008 17:37:49
Posts: 2,798, Visits: 3,979
Hey

I'm the proud owner of one Screen size is 73", and was £400

http://www.benq.co.uk/products/Projector/?product=581

Things you want to consider:

> Newest technology is DLP (Digital Light Processing) and most projectors should have this as standard.
> Replacement lamp cost (Mines around £80, which is good)
> Lamp life (mines around 3,000 hours
> Lumens (Brightness of the picture) , mine is 2000 lumens
> Contrast ratio (the ratio of the luminosity of the brightest and the darkest color the system is capable of producing.) - mine is 2000 :1
> Noise - mines 25db, which is good. Although you can get quieter.
> Is it HDTV ready? Mine is

Some other pointers: Check if it supports PAL-60, mine doesnt. It displays the xbox 360 games ok, but only if the console is set to PAL-50.

When its connected to my PC, it displays my desktop (all resolutions) no problem, although its best at 800x600.

http://forum.micromart.co.uk/Topic124581-19-1.aspx?Highlight=digital+projector - thats the thread anyway, and has some shots of my screen in it

My best advice really is to price up a few you can afford, look into replacement lamp costs, then when you decide on one, download the manual from the manufacturer website to check its specs in more detail.



=-=-=-=
Core 2 Duo E4400, Gigabyte GA 965P-S3, 580W Hiper TypeR,
4GB Patriot PC6400, 512MB Sapphire X1950Pro, Linux Mint 5 x64
Post #157413
Posted 31/12/2006 17:12:10
286

286286286286286

Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 20/09/2008 18:21:18
Posts: 314, Visits: 823
ooo kewl kewl, thanks mate..
One problem.. 800x600 resolution is terrible.. will it run games at 1024x786 at least?

Thanks

ATI Sapphire X1950PRO 256mb
AM2 Dual Core Windsor 5200
2 Gig 667 DDR2
120 Maxtor
80 Japenese thing.
Vista 64bit ( MISTAAAKE )
550Watt PSU


Shot at 2007-07-11
Post #157505
Posted 31/12/2006 20:19:48


Pentium

PentiumPentiumPentiumPentiumPentium

Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 19/11/2008 17:37:49
Posts: 2,798, Visits: 3,979
mine does Games are no problem, the desktop is much clearer at 800x600 but games should be fine at 1024 or even 1280

=-=-=-=
Core 2 Duo E4400, Gigabyte GA 965P-S3, 580W Hiper TypeR,
4GB Patriot PC6400, 512MB Sapphire X1950Pro, Linux Mint 5 x64
Post #157570
Posted 01/01/2007 13:10:40


Pentium

PentiumPentiumPentiumPentiumPentium

Group: Forum Members
Last Login: Yesterday @ 19:27:35
Posts: 5,435, Visits: 28,975
G where did you find replacement bulbs for a £100 from???

Ive been searching and am really confused although I really really want one of those now

If you could point me in the right direction please....

Cheers,
Tom
My Crime is that of curiosity, my crime is that of outsmarting you




Post #157690
Posted 01/01/2007 15:37:54


Pentium

PentiumPentiumPentiumPentiumPentium

Group: Forum Members
Last Login: Today @ 01:04:17
Posts: 8,025, Visits: 14,935
A.Chandler (31/12/2006)
ooo kewl kewl, thanks mate..
One problem.. 800x600 resolution is terrible.. will it run games at 1024x786 at least?

Thanks


Hi A!

800x600 is not at all terrible. I'm currently sitting less than 10 feet away from a 60 inch screen being driven by an 800x600 DLP projector and the pixels are all but invisible.

It's the main display for my PC media centre and TV, DVDs and games look absolutely stunning! Remember that standard definition digital TV and DVD pictures only have 576 picture lines anyway.

The really important point is to make sure that you buy DLP and NOT LCD. With a DLP projector there is virtually no gap between pixels. With LCD there is a huge gap between them which gives the impression that you are watching everything through a thick black mesh. Truly horrible!

The contrast ratio of any DLP based projector will be around 2000:1. LCD projectors are generally no better than a cheap LCD monitor in this respect at around 500:1.

All of the projectors I've looked at will rescale almost any higher resolution down to 800x600 but this is completely pointless for obvious reasons. Why waste horsepower generating an image that you can't display without rescaling? The result will always be a blurry, less well defined image due to the rescaling process.

I run all my games in 800x600 which allows me to crank up all the games graphics settings to the max. Any well written game should look stunning with 4x or 6x fullscreen anti-aliasing.

Doing a direct comparison between a Sony PS2 on a JVC 28 inch TV and my system, both running 'Need For Speed-Carbon', mine makes the PS2 look totally pathetic.

The only problem I had was getting used to playing games on such a big screen. Keep a sickbag handy. LOL

Cheers, Slipstreem.

PS Look at the attachment at the bottom of this post for a piccy of a movie played back at 800x600 via the DLP projector.



System specs: "Phoenix" - Intel C2D E4500 overclocked to 3GHz with ACF7Pro HSF on Volt-modded ASRock 775Dual-VSTA mobo (modded BIOS rev 3.10A and VNB=1.65, Vagp=1.8), 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 RAM (3.0,3,3,8,1T @546MHz), Sapphire ATI HD3870 512MB GDDR4 PCIe graphics card overclocked to 850MHz GPU & 2.4GHz RAM. Powered by Hiper Type-M 580W PSU. Guess who likes overclocking on a budget.

MP3 Encoding for Audiophiles
Fun MPEG-4 Encoding Race
MPEG-4 Playback Enhancement Using FFDShow
How good is the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro HSF really?
Boosting ATI Framerates with CCC (X700 on)
Optimise ATI Image Quality And Framerates With ATT (X1XXX Series under WinXP)

Post #157717
Posted 01/01/2007 17:49:58


Pentium

PentiumPentiumPentiumPentiumPentium

Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 19/11/2008 17:37:49
Posts: 2,798, Visits: 3,979
Hey Slipstreem, been meaning to ask you when I saw this last time.... What did you use for the projector screen? A special screen or did you do what I did and just paint a section of wall white?

=-=-=-=
Core 2 Duo E4400, Gigabyte GA 965P-S3, 580W Hiper TypeR,
4GB Patriot PC6400, 512MB Sapphire X1950Pro, Linux Mint 5 x64
Post #157759
Posted 01/01/2007 19:19:22


Pentium

PentiumPentiumPentiumPentiumPentium

Group: Forum Members
Last Login: Today @ 01:04:17
Posts: 8,025, Visits: 14,935
Hi Jon!

Happy new year matey!

The screen is a home-brewed affair and works very well. Here's the shopping list for my 60 inch version :-

1 sheet of hardboard - 50 inches x 38 inches,
Skirting board - 15 feet,
1 cheap white bedsheet,
1 Packet of wallpaper paste,
1 Tin of aluminium flake paint,
1 Tin of matt black spray paint,
1 Mitre block for cutting 45degree angles on the skirting,
2 Cup hooks,
1 bottle of PVA wood adhesive.

Firstly, mix up some wallpaper paste and paste one side of the hardboard. The textured side is probably best as it tends to be more absorbent.

Now stick the bedsheet to the hardboard being very careful to exclude all air bubbles, detritus, etc. Allow to dry thoroughly, then trim off the excess sheet with scissors.

Apply the aluminium flake paint to the sheet. Flood it on to avoid brush marks. Repeat until you get a consistent reflective finish. Mine needed 5 coats.

Cut the skirting into 2 lengths of 52 inches and 2 lengths of 40 inches. Cut 45degree angles on the ends to place the rounded edge of the skirting on the inside of the frame.

Spray the skirting matt black and stick it together with PVA adhesive checking for squareness with a set-square (or adjacent edges of a piece of A4 paper for cheapness).

Stick the frame to the front of the screen using more PVA (or use screws from the back).

Screw 2 cup hooks into the back of the frame along the top edge to hang the screen.

Job done!

The net result is a screen with a VERY wide viewing angle and a high level of reflectivity. The matt-black chamfered border allows for any lack of squareness that leads to overspill in the projected image to be soaked up almost invisibly.

Why the bedsheet? Because it gives a subtle and consistant textured effect that makes the boundaries between pixels almost undetectable when using a DLP projector without losing any actual definition.

Why silver? Because it gives the impression that the image is being displayed as a reflection. The image appears to be slightly behind the screen and has that pseudo-3D feel that you only usually get at the cinema. Silver also gives a perceived improvement in contrast ratio. The paint MUST be true aluminium flake paint for this to work properly. Mine came from Screw