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Posted 08/02/2007 18:42:55
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While I can see your point about plagiarism in the use of the net I can still remember my school days (just about). When given a research project I had to go to the library, locate an appropriate book and research my subject. In that era most people had a public library whch was open till early evening and Saturday morning.  Nowadays due to financial restraints my local library is poorly stocked and opens three days a week for half a day.  The internet provides us with 24/7 coverage of every possible subject much simplifying research. In all fairness except perhaps in the case of literature where it is all to easy to copy someone else's work I don't see a lot of difference in looking up information on the web and in a book.  After all it was easy enough to just copy the info from a book even if you couldn't cut and paste it. Not that I ever did, trust me. Yes things have changed but I think there are at least as many positives as negatives.
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Posted 08/02/2007 23:38:57


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Copying from one source is plagiorism, copying from many sources is research

using websites to garner information is OK. Leo teaching her how to cut and paste, isn't. As long as you read the info at least once something will stick.


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Posted 08/02/2007 23:44:39


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using websites to garner information is OK. Leo teaching her how to cut and paste, isn't. As long as you read the info at least once something will stick.


I disagree. Leo made a point of saying he showed his daughter how to knock the pasted content into the required shape -- that is, cutting out the stuff that wasn't needed, whittling it down. In order to do that, you've got to read it. Probably several times.


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Posted 09/02/2007 00:22:15


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I suppose that I will be called pedantic for saying that it will normally be 'Copy & paste', not 'Cut & paste'. Cut moves it from one place to another, but copy leaves the original intact.

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Posted 09/02/2007 00:25:25


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Pedantic or not, you're quite right.


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Posted 09/02/2007 03:06:56


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Yes using a book is a lost art.Cut and paste is all well and good but reading the article and then using the skill to precis it would teach the child a whole lot more about the english language.
and she could still type it into her word processor and print it off.



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Posted 09/02/2007 05:22:46


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Agree, it's better (and kind of easier) to look through it and put it in your own words in the first place, but facts are facts whoever writes them.

(Missed this week, btw, just going on this thread)

Now... when was the last time anyone else went to a library?




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Posted 09/02/2007 14:22:01
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something that struck me about the article was when Leo said that as a kid  he knew that limstone had been invented.... erm ... how do you invent a natural stone that is quarried out of the ground? Uses for the quarried stone can be invented but that isn't what he said.

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Posted 09/02/2007 20:13:49


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