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Posted 24/02/2007 16:24:06


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Hi guys, not sure whether this has been discussed before but I saw on an episode of the screensavers one of the presenters at his house was extending his wireless router with co-axial cable and a satellite and he got a really good signal all across his property.

I would like to do the same thing how would I go about doing this, thanks Jack

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Posted 24/02/2007 17:51:20


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Don't know how they did that as:

  1. Co-ax cable is extremely high loss. Wireless "extention" cables need to be made for the job and kept as short as possible.
  2. Satellite dishes provide a highly focussed beam, suitable for long range "point to point" links and not site coverage.

Makes no sense to me...


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Posted 24/02/2007 18:45:39


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It should be feasable.  Co-axil is low loss, especially over short distances.  I presume you mean the satalite dish was used as a directional antenna?

If you google you can find a similar device made from a Pringles can to transmit over large distances.


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Posted 25/02/2007 00:31:19


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Yeah I mean the satellite as an directional antenna,

this is what I meant http://www.g4tv.com/techtvvault/features/44823/Leos_Digital_Digs.html

and the video is located http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2EEp-zJJc8

Thanks guys,

if it would work for me it would be a pretty neat little project.

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Posted 25/02/2007 00:46:12


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Genuine satellite dishes are about as much use as a chocolate teapot, as they operate on a different frequency band.

An omni aerial, as illustrated on the video clip, but for UK bands, should provide coverage if roof mounted. Low loss coaxial cable must be used, otherwise attenuation loss down the cable will lose any gain you have made by roof mounting.

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Posted 25/02/2007 00:54:27


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Thanks OP, sorry about any confusion with inaccurate terms etc, I probably wont set it up as I don't need to as I don't have a laptop.

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Posted 25/02/2007 01:02:44


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Well, you can always dream, can't you?

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Posted 25/02/2007 09:37:21


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Ok - now we have the url it's clear

He's using LMR400 cable - the specialist stuff I was on about (even then every metre of LMR400 causes a signal loss of 3db - effectively halving the signal strength every metre of cable used).
And an omni-directional antenna not a satellite dish.
NOW it makes sense...

One thing to be wary of, the signal does not spread out in a "globular" shape from an omni, it's more of a pancake / doughnut shape.
Several people have tried this and found that far from increasing their signal it kills it.
The antenna is mounted too high and they are in the "hole" of the doughnut

It's also not a cheap solution.

EDIT - just watched the video. Very simplistic.
With the directional antenna he may very well be able to use the laptop in the barn, but he failed to tell you that's the ONLY place he'll be able to use it...
Probably fallen into the "doughnut hole" in the house with the omni too...

More entertainment value than actual practical facts I'm afraid.
You really don't want to know how much all the LMR400 costs either

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Posted 25/02/2007 09:54:40


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