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Posted 06/03/2008 13:13:54


Rudolph @ 299,792,458 m/sec

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Black Viper !!!
Good grief - is he still around spouting inaccurate rubbish?
Luckily his site disappeared for a while, but unfortunately it looks as if it has floated back to the surface.

His assertions about disabling services etc. were thoroughly tested a couple of years ago by AnandTech and shown then to be complete twaddle, even on relatively low powered systems.
On a modern rig they made no improvements at all, in some cases decreased performance, and were always dangerous to mess with.
He used to admit that he didn't know what some services did, "but you might as well turn them off anyway, as they seem to make no difference." - hardly the scientific method.

If I can find the link to the very long test results I'll post it, but AnandTech's forum is nearly as bad as this one for searchinh.

The bottom line is - Leave services alone.

Edit - Found it

http://tinyurl.com/ysfjz6

Post #270442
Posted 06/03/2008 16:34:32


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I remember his guide and it increased my bench marks score quite a lot.

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Or flying @ 4.21GHz in the Stacker.
 
Try some MM Super Pi(e) here!

Post #270501
Posted 06/03/2008 18:28:50


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There are a few services that can be switched off. As always if your not sure leave alone.

There are benefits to it, I wouldn't say it's total rubbish though, that's just a bit far. 3DMark isn't exactly the best benchmark of performance is it.

I have never tried benchmarking the difference, but I might just do so at some point when I am free.

If there are no improvements then fair enough, but it still isn't "spouting inaccurate rubbish"


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Post #270544
Posted 06/03/2008 19:15:52


Rudolph @ 299,792,458 m/sec

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I'm sorry, but this site and his personal obsessions have been floating around various homes for years, regularly gets trotted out on forums such as this, and time and again reputable sites (including AnandTech, Toms Hardware etc.) have tested his "advice" and found either no improvements, frequently reductions in performance or complete crashes.

4 or 5 years or so ago it was the "in" site to refer to, and even on this forum there were cries for help from people who had followed his advice and screwed their systems

If you can provide me with a link to any independent site that has carried out rigorous testing and found improvements, or as Dave says above provide some personally verifiable detailed benchmarks, then I'll happily change my mind, but until then as far as I'm concerned it remains rubbish.

Just another "Urban Myth" that routinely gets referred to.

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Posted 06/03/2008 22:45:48


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I'll do a personal test on Vista in a week or two


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Posted 07/03/2008 00:21:27
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There used to be a great amateur website, which I believe belonged to a Dutchman: www.blkviper.com .It contained charts and step-by-step instructions on which services were useful, what they each did, and which weren't. (The charts indicated different kinds of users, each with different needs) Alas, the site vanished over a year back... but a "cutout and keep" equivalent in MM would be very welcome.


You mean this: http://www.blackviper.com/

Useful website


It is indeed (not just for the "services" stuff, a I recall!) seems like he changed the URL - I've still got a faded printout from the old site giving the "blkviper" address.

I suspect that BlackViper's popularity stemmed from the popularity of Windows XP Pro - which due to it's lack of a need to be "activated" rapidly became the most pirated version. XP Pro was intended to be used in a networked office environment, and many of the "services" switched on by default reflect that: they're there (for example) to give SysAdmins access to your PC remotely. If you're not ON a network, it seems perfectly reasonable to want to switch them off... Each one switched off would free up a small amount of system resources - not very much, but the effect is cumulative.

I'd have more respect for those who criticise his work if the criticism was at least original, rather than merely repeating what someone else had said.
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Posted 07/03/2008 12:57:07


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By one of the Dell's with Ubuntu installed and supported.

Acer Travelmate/Linux Mint 4

Post #270693
Posted 07/03/2008 13:24:15


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I dont feel the need to prove anything. It seemed fairly logical to me that the more processes I stopped running the faster the O.S would run. For the purpose of finding the highest possible score it worked...

Bare in mind FS this was for XP...

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