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| I buy and read Micromart every week, a great read and source of pricing info for that 'dream' PC I one day will build. Each week I look forward to the gaming section, which keeps me up-to-date and sometimes a source of amusement. This month there's a big 'feature' about MMORPG games, obviously World of Warcraft is heavily mentioned, and a bunch of other games (some of which I've never heard of tbh) and a small mention of Eve-Online, referred to as a space trading/combat sim. In the same spirit, can I describe WoW as the beat up gnomes and talk to fairies sim? I'm sorry, it appears you are going out of your way to avoid mentioning Eve in you magazine? Why is this? Perhaps you were killed off when you attempted to play and so have a bad opinion of the game? Eve-online is the largest MMORPG out there, considering that WoW (and the rest) use a sharded server network, WoW may have more players overall, but spread over hundreds of servers. Eve is a single server persistent universe, all players play on the same server, peaking at about 30,000+ on a Sunday evening. Every player can interact with any other player, no need to swap servers or agree on which servers to meet up with friends. Describing it as a space trading/combat sim is rather understating the case. Eve does have trading, indeed CCP the developers employ a full time economist to study the eve economy as it's almost entirely player driven, no other MMORPG has such a rich economy. Combat, oh my, where do I start. Eve has combat, from the newer player in his small ship shooting computer controlled drones, right up to fleet battles involving hundreds of players in all sizes of ships fighting to control vast expanses of the huge universe (some 5500 solar systems). The scale of these wars cannot compare to a raid on WoW lasting a number of hours, one of the largest wars in Eve (BoB vs Goons) has been ongoing for years! with systems swapping ownership on a daily basis, the number of players involved numbers in the thousands. If Eve is 'just' a space trading/combat game, then WoW is just a very pretty middle-earth sim. One big problem with Eve-Online is the learning curve, it's more of a cliff. CCP are trying to improve the new player experience. Prove me wrong and mention Eve-Online occasionally in your gaming columns. Rev667
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Welcome to the Madhouse.
I'm not a gamer,so can't comment on your post, but I'm sure the gamers in our midst will have a lot to say.
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I'm not much of a gamer really but I like the sound of that game, played a game like that on the Amiga when I was a kid, I can never remember the name!
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If you'd read the article again, you'll see I was praising EVE for its inventive reward for players (in this case, using in-game credits to pay for subscription fees, but I love the player advancement system as well), not slagging off on it. Space is at a premium, and I couldn't think of a better description for EVE Online. But yes, you could easily describe WoW as a punt gnomes and talk to fairies game, because that's essentially what it is (well, there aren't fairies and WoW isn't very pretty compared to the actual Middle Earth simulator LotRO, but I take your point).
I get what EVE is; it's like a MMO version of Starcraft. I like EVE, despite the fact it's hard to bond with a spaceship, and the player economy is fascinating to me, but I couldn't spend half the article discussing a game that 30k people might play on a good day and neglect the games plural that have active player bases over 100k.
I've got nothing against your game of choice, but feel free to buy multiple copies of the magazine for all your friends so you can point out to them what a jackass I am.
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| I like Eve-Online (been playing for about 3 years) because it reminds me of Elite on the Spectrum, only brought up to date. The 30k players are actually live players online at the same time... the numbers for subscribed player base is over 300,000 I believe. Starcraft, might have to check that out. Nope you don't really put Eve down, but it is a very popular game and it was just your article that pushed me into posting. Micromart Gaming column has (iirc) never even mentioned Eve-Online, while expounding the virtues of other obscure mmorpg games, that's why I suspect your magazine has a downer about Eve.
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"Check Starcraft" Dude, where have you been the past 10 years?!
Eve-Online was mentioned in this month's PC Gamer as one of the writer's least liked game.
Plus, remember that MM is *not* a gaming orientated magazine, although it's mentioned from time to time. This means the opinions on a game are from a much smaller user base, and this means a negative opinion can oft be regarded as the norm...
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EVE's good. I got fairly addicted to it a while ago but gave up on it.
Not really seen it mentioned in bad light in MM.
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