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| Simon, recent copies of MicroMart are becoming difficult to read due to printing black text on coloured backgrounds. For a time I thought perhaps my 62 year old eyes were the cause of the problem but having had my 20 year old grandkids have look I find that they too think the colour schemes are difficult to get on with. I stopped taking PCAdvisor for just this reason, until eventually enough people complained and they stopped doing it. Simon, I ask you to stop with this nonsense asap. If you don't I will be forced to suspend my subscription. I enjoy MicroMart more than any of the many computer mags out there but I believe you are cutting your market down to only those people who have eyes as good as an outthouse rat. Over to you..... it's your choice entirely. try to keep the use of colourful language to a minimum child and family friendly policy here 
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| Hi, This has been an ongoing issue with MM for a considerable time. Readers have complained over & over, promises of change are made, then it's back to the old colour schemes. I just wonder if the "copy" looks different on a screen as opposed to real life (so to speak). In relation to this complaint I don't think the "powers that be" are all that concerned otherwise by now they would have done something about it. This was one of the reasons why I stopped buying MM. I won't say anymore.
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not being funny or anything but could you give an example page in this weeks mag? as i have not noticed it 
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Hi, and thanks for the post. We made several template changes over 12 months ago after receiving similar feedback, and am keen to stamp out anything else that people have found tricky to read. If you can give me examples, that would be great. I think our record over the last year has shown that when it's drawn to our attention that something's tricky to read, we quickly fix it. 
Apologies for any problems this has caused.
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Hi,
This has been an ongoing issue with MM for a considerable time. Readers have complained over & over, promises of change are made, then it's back to the old colour schemes. I just wonder if the "copy" looks different on a screen as opposed to real life (so to speak).
In relation to this complaint I don't think the "powers that be" are all that concerned otherwise by now they would have done something about it.
This was one of the reasons why I stopped buying MM. I won't say anymore.
Again, an example over the last year or so would be great; myself and the design team take this very seriously, and if someone can point us towards something that was tricky to read, we'll gladly address it.
I think that comment that hints at lack of concern is unfair, though. We made a lot of quite subtle changes around the templates after the complaints we received, and while the problem wasn't fixed as quickly originally as we'd I've liked, we came on this forum, talked it through and then made changes. That's surely not lack of concern?
Thanks,
Simon
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| Simon, I know as you do, that this matter has been aired on the Forum many times in the past two years or so - there have been many complaints re the text/background colours in use in MM. Yes, platitudes have been offered, but it always seems to go back to combinations that, on paper, can be difficult to read - it might appear totally different on screen. I'm sorry I longer retain any copies of MM and as previously mentioned that was one of the reasons I gave up buying it. I think that we had complaints of light yellow on an orange background, white on a light grey (??) background and other combinations that now escape me. What is actually wrong with black text on a white background? I fail to understand what the attraction is of placing coloured text on coloured backgrounds in such a combination that many older readers might fail to view it properly. I don't think that I am aware of any other magazines that feel a need to do so with such regularity as MM seems to still do it. Certainly up to Jan 08 it was still prevelant - that was the time I ceased buying MM. From my point of view, my posting was to bring to the notice of the originator of the thread that his concern was not a new issue.
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After reading this I did have a flick through the mag, and the worst I found was black on yellow. Which I wouldn't have thought to be a bad combination.
Off the top of my head, the boxouts in some articles are white on blue, but that's the only thing I can think of. Maybe it's the fact that coloured backgrounds bleed slightly and so white text is thinner than black text (where colour does not bleed into).
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Simon, first of all thanks for replying.
In response to your reply I intended to list some examples (of hard to read text) but after going through the last three issues of MM I found so many.
I have concluded, therefore, that if they need pointing out to you, then you, your staff and those responsible for deciding the colouring then the problem must be with me and those people whose views I solicited, i.e it is our eyes that are the problem and our opinions and eyesight are at such variance with yours that further discussion would be pointless.
But once again I thank you for taking the time to reply.
Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe,
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe
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