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Ok, got the pute and while I feared it was going to be a lame duck... oh how wrong I was! running the existing 18gb hard drive and with the humble x700 graphics card it plays Doom 3 on mid settings and 2x antialiasing and its smooth as silk! how impressed amI? very. how impressed is me son? extremly. will it play LOTR online? dunno yet, needs the SCSI drive removed and replaced with a decent sized IDE one for a swift windows xp install.
Im well happy with the purchase :-)
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Good news! Now try Crysis  I'd be very tempted to keep the SCSI in there as a boot drive and use the IDE for storage.
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| ah but he doesnt play crisis. if he did he would be running an AMD 6000 with Nvidia 8800 graphics (or possibly a ATi 4850) with 2 gig ram etc etc etc. I thought about keeping with the scsi, but he isnt the best at pc maintenance and tends to store stuff on his computer any ol where so with a storage ide and op sys scsi I think I would end up with the 18gb scsi full to brimm with junk and the ide drive empty. i will have a think about it though and get back to you. I think the W6000 is socket 603 rather than 604 (it appears most 1700 xeons are 603) so I am a little limited on cpu upgradeability. think the fastest I can go is 2400 which should be ample for him going by what the pute handles so far! AGP graphics wise I am thinking a 7600GT AGP would be ideal, Aria sell them for under £30 now. any thoughts?
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Sounds cool...Better rethink your sig.
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desktopstu (13/08/2008) ah but he doesnt play crisis. if he did he would be running an AMD 6000 with Nvidia 8800 graphics (or possibly a ATi 4850) with 2 gig ram etc etc etc.
Why? C2D would perform much better 
7600 would be a good choice, but so would something along the lines of a X1950 (if you can find one in AGP)
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| C2D would be better IF you overclock it. pound for pound, non overclocked I think the AMD is beeter for money when you factor in the price of AM2+ boards being cheap and the chips themselves being cheap. I have a 4300 on a dual VSTA and have had limited success overclocking despite having a huge heatsink and fan. got it to run at 2500 and to be honest, doing what i do on the pc i didnt notice the difference between this speed and stock, but did notice instability at this kinda speed. to overclock it right I would prob need a better board which would cost more. the way I see it id rather run a stock and steady speed and keep it cheap. so Im for an AMD setup in future. but hey, lets not start THAT debate eh? ;-)
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desktopstu (13/08/2008) C2D would be better IF you overclock it. pound for pound, non overclocked I think the AMD is beeter for money when you factor in the price of AM2+ boards being cheap and the chips themselves being cheap.
I have a 4300 on a dual VSTA and have had limited success overclocking despite having a huge heatsink and fan. got it to run at 2500 and to be honest, doing what i do on the pc i didnt notice the difference between this speed and stock, but did notice instability at this kinda speed. to overclock it right I would prob need a better board which would cost more. the way I see it id rather run a stock and steady speed and keep it cheap. so Im for an AMD setup in future.
but hey, lets not start THAT debate eh? ;-)
No offense meant here, but you must be doing something wrong then. From day-to-day tasks, you won't notice a thing due to Intel's SpeedStep (my clock speed is around 1.5GHz right now), it's only with CPU intensive tasks that you notice the real difference.
Sorry Stu, but AMD's had their day, and there is no way to justify an AMD set up over an Intel one at the moment. A 6000 + Mobo + RAM will be more expensive than an E2 series + mobo + RAM, and is likely to be less powerful (and more power hungry) than the Intel rig.
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if someone wants to use an amd rig, does he need to justify it? And you trying to tell me that a STOCK E2xxx series is faster than a 6000+ Athlon? Uh, hows that work then..
From what i can gather, stu is referring to using his rig at stock speeds.. Not overclocked. 
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